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JK Rowling in ‘arrest me’ challenge over Scottish hate crime law (www.bbc.com)

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JK Rowling has challenged Scotland's new hate crime law in a series of social media posts - inviting police to arrest her if they believe she has committed an offence.

The Harry Potter author, who lives in Edinburgh, described several transgender women as men, including convicted prisoners, trans activists and other public figures.

She said "freedom of speech and belief" was at an end if accurate description of biological sex was outlawed.

Earlier, Scotland's first minister Humza Yousaf said the new law would deal with a "rising tide of hatred".

The Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Act 2021 creates a new crime of "stirring up hatred" relating to age, disability, religion, sexual orientation, transgender identity or being intersex.

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Ms Rowling, who has long been a critic of some trans activism, posted on X on the day the new legislation came into force.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

So you would let people yell Fire in a theatre?

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

I don't think it's a case of a law protecting weak from the strong. Since that was what I replied to.

But it's a fair question where I draw the line. It's somewhere with direct and indirect consequences, which is hard to define. I absolutely agree that her speech might have very tangible real consequences to real people from a group she is targeting. But than again it's due to actions of other people "inspired" by her words. While when shouting fire, you create panic just with your own words. Than again one can definitely incite violent actions through media. But that it is even more complicated since it becomes about intent and interpretation.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

So you do think governments should enforce speech laws. I just want you to stop using this as an argument by itself.

If you look a bit on the history of fascism, they often attack liberal systems as oppressive because of laws that muzzles the hateful. Once in power, their first move is to muzzle the opposition.

Don't be duped by their tactics, the oppressed few can barely get equal rights and the hate army is marching to take that away swaying the weak-minded with a narrative of free speech.

There is plenty of discussion to have about "the line" but we need to move away from free speech absolutists like Musk that once they get power they use it for censorship.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

So you do think governments should enforce speech laws.

I think it's a more complex question that people make it out to be. I would say any speech regulation by the government is something we should be wary about.

If you look a bit on the history of fascism, they often attack liberal systems as oppressive because of laws that muzzles the hateful. Once in power, their first move is to muzzle the opposition.

I don't get your argument here.

Don’t be duped by their tactics, the oppressed few can barely get equal rights and the hate army is marching to take that away swaying the weak-minded with a narrative of free speech.

Sure, when people who disagree with you are weak minded, it's easy to be always right.

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