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[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Anyone with experience in politics knows why the Liberals did what they did.

IF the Liberals had pushed through the legislation, the CPC and Bloc were both going to portray it a Liberal power grab, and that message would definitely get traction. The CPC had already said they'd revert back to FPTP, and the Bloc was making noises that they'd back them up.

That's why the Liberals went out of their way to do what they did. What they didn't expect was the NDP going all or nothing on MMP, a system that laypeople find difficult to understand, and certainly not one to be explained easily in a sound bite.

Internal Liberal polling, not the dog and pony online poll, found that most people didn't care, but could easily be convinced it was a power grab. They were putting a lot of effort in something that had no upside, but a pile of potential downside.

They cut their losses, and aside from online forums, paid little price for it.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

I do think that the NDP going all or nothing on MMP is what ultimately killed the whole thing for the LPC, what was the final nail anyway. Reading that committee report broke my heart, to be honest, because I wanted ER to succeed, but I knew it was dead when the CPC/NDP/Bloc wrote the majority committee report and didn't put anything the LPC could vote for in it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

MMP is the best system though, I don't see why the NDP pushing for it is considered bad. You really only get one shot at electoral reform, why put in a system like STV that's barely any better? Pleanty of other countries use MMP without issue.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

MMP is difficult to explain to anyone uninterested in electoral reform, ie the majority of voters. Include things like party lists and members at large, and you can get some pretty significant drawbacks. There was also the more likely possibility of constitutional issues than with STV or ranked ballot, given the seat allocations outlined in the constitution.

Ranked or STV are easy to explain, ranked especially. Ridings and the ballots don't even need to change. Instead of an X, put numbers in the circle. Easy-peasy to explain.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

It might be easy to explain, but it is less effective at proportionally distributing power and more likely to keep the two party system going. That's why the LPC supported it, because they hoped it wouldn't really change anything.

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