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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Australian Jewish Association is a fucked up group of fucked up people. Opposing things they say is anti-idiocy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (13 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Implying that Jewish people at large need to be told not to murder children because of the actions of Israel is actually anti-Semitic. Citing parts of the Torah to slander Jews when the topic is about Israel is anti-Semitic.

There are Jewish activists who oppose Israel (and Israel abuses them for their activism when they live there, or outright bans them from ever visiting Israel if they live elsewhere). And there are Jewish Palestinians too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (5 children)

The Australian Jewish Association posting a picture like the one in the post kind of implicates Jews at large if such actions aren't widely condemned and taken back, even if it seems anti-Semitic to do so.

That said there are many Jews that advocate for peace and to end this violence.

Just one example of many: https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/

Unfortunately it's overshadowed by a massive suppression campaign all over the world to hide voices of protest and justify the occupation.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

This should be pointed more often, if ideology of a group is including culling other groups then you shouldn't be surprised they actually start doing it someday, this actually also points at many other groups out there and people tend to forget about it till it's too late

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Have to condemn Riemer & Lieberman here…

How’d you interpret the last two paragraphs?

Even if most people would not invoke the commandment to destroy Amalek today, there are certainly those, like Rabbi Riemer, who have ventured to do so. And there has been no dearth of similar, violent invocations in reference to the Palestinians, as well. For example, Benzi Lieberman, the chairman of the Council of Settlements said in no uncertain terms: “The Palestinians are Amalek! We will destroy them. We won’t kill them all. But we will destroy their ability to think as a nation. We will destroy Palestinian nationalism.”

The general consensus among today’s Jewish community seems to be that our energies can and must be used to stop the perpetuation of genocidal activity occurring throughout the world, to become agents for peace, and to dismiss any contemporary comparisons to the biblical paradigm. But clearly there are difficult texts and teaching that remain in our tradition that must be remembered and reckoned with.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's part of the Bible, too, so it's also anti-Christian!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This comment is actually pretty bigoted. I've heard literal Nazis talk the exact same way about Muslims and their religious texts.

Just because something was written in a religious book a thousand years ago doesn't mean it is automatically endorsed by the entire population.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Hey, I agree with you my comment was a bit bigoted. This comment was half-written in the context of being a Lemmy Shitpost, but it has spawned a chain of genuine discussion.

The important thing is to separate the hate for what Israel is doing from Jewish people in general. (Same with Palestinians, Hamas and Islam)

Anti-Semites and Nazis, Islamic fundamentalists, the Israeli government, the Australian Jewish Association all try to fuse the two together to justify violence.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

The vast majority of Jews do not accept what ancient iron age text happen to say as if they were modern moral texts and recognize their ancient flaws. Because most Jews aren't Orthodox, who are the only ones who believe all that shit.

The rabbi at the temple when I was growing up was a lesbian. The rabbi at the temple there now (coincidentally) is a gay man. Considering homosexuality is condemned in the torah and they are still rabbis, that should tell you something.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Is AJA a credible group? Or just some person trying to sound official?

No worse than the ADL for sure.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (5 children)

There are Jewish Muslims that live in Palestine. Would it not be antisemitic of Israel to a attack an area that houses Jews of any sect and faith?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Do you mean Jewish arabs? or Semitic Muslims maybe. Technically Semitic is a language group which includes arabic but like indo-european it can also refer to the people who originally used the dialect... bigotry fails at logic.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Judaism is a religion, not a race. Plenty of people of the race commonly associated with Judsism who aren't Jews. Like your average Palestinian.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle 7 points 6 months ago

Palestinians are semites. Judaism isn't a race, it's a religion.

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