Technology

Ive got a TOS for them:

SECTION I

a. This contract expressly and to the fullest extent of the law binds that I did not read, nor am I bound to the terms and agreement laid out in any agreement that I agreed to. Any financial gains are automatically won by me in arbitration and any losses acrued are paid for by the Company to me with interest. Here is a vague copy/paste of about 9 more incoherent paragraphs full of "legal jargon" that never really state any clear purpose or definition of services rendered.

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SECTION IX.

a. BY READING OR NOT READING THIS NOTICE COMPANY ASSUMES AND ACCEPTS ANY AND ALL FINANCIAL LIABILITY THEREIN. COMPANY AGREES TO PAY ME $75,000 FOR EDITING THIS CONTRACT (STANDARD GOING RATE PER DAY) PER DAY EFFECTIVE FOR 3 DAYS MAXIMUM TOTALING $225,000 PLUS TAXES AND INTEREST PAID.

b. COMPANY HAS UP TO 5 DAYS TO RESPOND TO AND DISPUTE THIS CONTRACT(They can't. It is legally and eternally binding). THANKS FOR THE MONEY NERDS

Did the old device agreement allow them to brick it until you agreed to the new agreement? If not, I say file that class action.

That is some grade A bullshit right there (not op, the Roku tv)

use the search terms "commercial display" to find dumb tvs

Shit like this is why my LG C1 is restricted to LAN access only in my router (local network for automation purposes) and can't communicate with the internet.

Anyway, the new terms are about waiving your right to a class action lawsuit. It's weird to me because I'd never considered filing a class action lawsuit against Roku until this. I wish Roku TVs weren't cheap walmart brand sh*t. Someone with some actual money might sue them and sort this out...

The good thing about class action lawsuits is that you don't need money. The law firms are just about the only ones that get paid. If you pay attention to class action settlements it's often something like $3m in attorneys fees, $5,000 to the named plaintiffs, and then a 3 month subscription to the companies own service or a refund of out of pocket expenses, during a specified period, not to exceed $150 per person.

Long story short, firms are more than happy to take on a class action that can be won, but you won't get much.

Buy a computer monitor and attach a streaming box to it

For example

https://www.currys.co.uk/products/gigabyte-aorus-fo48u-4k-ultra-hd-47.53-oled-gaming-monitor-black-10234612.html?istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=4d7eb93e-055f-499d-8ee5-1cdcc50d67d1&istItemId=plpattxmp&istBid=t&srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~2053+(PLA)+SBRE+PC+GAMING+HW+SBRE~2053+(PLA)+SBRE+PC+GAMING+HW+SBRE+v2+ad+group~Exact~71700000069775194~&mctag=gg_goog_7904&kwid=GOOGLE&device=m&ds_kids=92700074464906704&tgtid=2053+(PLA)+SBRE+PC+GAMING+HW+SBRE&&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA3JCvBhA8EiwA4kujZrPOffw7f01RZKN0Xzpo9SXzuTT-bjGDwyM2i1wpULw5wBgAjE9_NRoCJ5MQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

I had the same on my 3 yr old Vizio TV earlier this week. TV was useless until I agreed. I don’t know whether it operates without an internet connection, because it has a couple Apps I use that are not supported on my Fire Stick

Why do you call it "your" physical device?

Sections 1(F) and 1(L) seem like the only ways out/around of this. (IANAL; the bolding emphasis was done by me.)

F. Small Claims. You or Roku may pursue any Claim, except IP Claims, in a small-claims court instead of through arbitration if (i) the Claim meets the jurisdictional requirements of the small claims court and (ii) the small claims court does not permit class or similar representative actions or relief.

L. 30-Day Right to Opt Out. You have the right to opt out of arbitration by sending written notice of your decision to opt out to the following address by mail: General Counsel, Roku Inc., 1701 Junction Court, Suite 100, San Jose, CA 95112 within 30 days of you first becoming subject to these Dispute Resolution Terms. Such notice must include the name of each person opting out and contact information for each such person, the specific product models, software, or services used that are at issue, the email address that you used to set up your Roku account (if you have one), and, if applicable, a copy of your purchase receipt. For clarity, opt-out notices submitted via any method other than mail (including email) will not be effective. If you send timely written notice containing the required information in accordance with this Section 1(L), then neither party will be required to arbitrate the Claims between them.

when did you get this, have a roku tv box and haven't got this yet

Why can't we ever have anything nice?

I don't even know what's worse, really. Is it that they're making a shit product on purpose, or that their EULA says you cannot sue them for making a shit product