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Another Reddit refugee here,

I think we're all familiar with the Karma system on Reddit. Do you think Lemmy should have something similar? Because I can see cases for and against it.

For: a way to tracking quality contributions by a user, quantifying reputation. Useful to keep new accounts from spamming communities.

Against: Often not a useful metric, can be botted or otherwise unearned (see u/spez), maybe we should have something else?

What do you all think?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No, it's not necessary. Who cares who contributes a lot? If a user cares about karma, then they should just stay at Reddit. We don't need this to be a Reddit clone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I say don't bother - if it can be gamed by bots, it will. Even Slashdot's mod/meta-mod system could be gamed by the current generation of bots, because a lot of comments / reposts look fine out of context.

If you don't have karma there's nothing to farm, and that means fewer karma farming bots and better overall quality of content.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't see what problem it solves. You can already look at your posts and comment history and see what got upvoted, if that's something that you care about.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I would say something akin to what the name "karma" implies, but not something that can be farmed or botted. Almost like a rating that could factor in multiple different stats; like age of account, posts and/or comments per day, the overall positive/negative rating of said comments, post size, etc... And, it could all be consolidated into some sort of percentage and history graph or something. It would have to be actively developed and debated on to what works and doesn't work.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Mfers arguing whether reddits equivalent of a captcha will affect social interaction.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can definitely live without it, bit I do miss it a lot.

I liked my magic internet points number, man.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I pay attention to individual comments, as feedback from people. The karma total, though, I never think about it at all. I started just deleting my reddit accounts every 2-4 months anyway. Pretty meaningless to me. We could have it on Lemmy or not. I’d be just as interested in all-time word count.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dont care about karma but i do like to see a users history, something i apparently cant do on mlem. Not sure if thats site-wide or just this app. Without that i wouldnt be able to confidently use the buy-sell communities that i did on reddit like knife_swap or watchexchange.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's already "Reputation Points" so don't we already have that, but by another name? I like this name much better than "karma" by the way. I'm kinda good with what we have. It feels like an echo of some things from Reddit are here without being a total clone. Hopefully it won't influence people toward bad/annoying behavior like on Reddit.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

No. I'd rather no up voting/downvoting on comments at all. It discourages discussion.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. It just leads to people gaming the system. I also think that counting upvotes but not downvotes is also a good idea, when ranking which posts show first. Too many people use downvote for "I disagree", which means a true idea with less than 50% popularity gets buried.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it should, but perhaps it shouldn't be as prominent as on Reddit, and maybe it should be called something more boring, like "post vote sum" or something, to make people place less importance on it.

Edit: would love some input as to why this suggestion is being downvoted. ^Or is this just an example of the circleherky behavior you were all convinced was because of karma...?^

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