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I recently moved to California. Before i moved, people asked me "why are you moving there, its so bad?". Now that I'm here, i understand it less. The state is beautiful. There is so much to do.

I know the cost of living is high, and people think the gun control laws are ridiculous (I actually think they are reasonable, for the most part). There is a guy I work with here that says "the policies are dumb" but can't give me a solid answer on what is so bad about it.

So, what is it that California does (policy-wise) that people hate so much?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

We moved to California from across the pond and love it. Socal weather can't be beat. Great food, great outdoor exercise and playtime options. The people are nice. Yeah theres issues but all told we really like it. I don't get the hate from other states and seems to be simply sour grapes

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I haven't been to California, but I can tell you I'd rather pee my pants than stop for a bathroom break in the rural southern US. I can't think California would be that way.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Politics wise, it is seen as a hub of liberals. That means you have conservatives doing their best to knock California down the same way that liberals will do the same for Texas and Florida.

That said, there is a cost of living crisis that is caused a lot in part by the wealthy blocking increased density while locking in low property taxes due to date of purchase. So, a lot of coverage gets portrayed as rich liberals say they want these things, except near them.

It is also easier to film homeless in California since the weather makes it easier for them to live outside and the state is failing bad at providing housing for them.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I lived there and made $90k a year. Lived like 50 minutes from work, still paid $2.5k per month for a 500sqft studio and qualified as low income for the area. If people making that much are considered low income, something has failed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Was it an occupation that would have made half that amount elsewhere in the country? Cost of living and salaries typically go hand in hand. Issues of essential workers having to live far outside of where they work notwithstanding.

People who live in a much lower cost of living society could say the same thing about Americans making $30k. "If people making that much are considered low income, something is wrong" it's all relative.

If California were a country by itself it would have the 5th highest GDP in the world, literally more than the UK or India, but 40 million people instead of 1.4 billion. It's not that crazy.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's more that a lot of people move out from California and trash-talk it to anyone who will listen. This happens with everywhere, but because CA is so populous it has more people doing this than other places.

Though, IMO, the weather sounds terrible to me.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

That's such a nonsensical statement to make about a state the size of California. Just the 3 main coastal cities have vastly different climates, and that's not even getting into the highly varied ecosystems found inland. Are you thinking specifically about the LA area?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The weather is one of the largest reasons people migrate to california.

Even if your homeless, its of the few states where you could be outside year round and not die due to the more extreme points of weather that you would experience in mamy other states

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

the weather where? it's a big state, with quite a lot of variation. there's a huge difference between san francisco, bakersfield, and truckee. i think most people could find some local weather to hate, but i suspect most people can also find somewhere to appreciate. unless you just want tropics or arctics or something similarly extreme i guess.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Expensive, will be hit hard by climate change, subject of right wing propaganda portraying it as a hive of removed debauchery(lgbt people and abortion rights)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Homelessness problem, too hot, too idolised and too full of rich assholes

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Too hot? It gets over 100*f in the Midwest with high humidity pretty regularly. Chicago average daily humidity is 70%. But then it's also winter for 6 months straight.

Weather is extremely stable in California, that's why it's a popular place to live.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Taxes are super high. I'd be big mad if I was Californian, they get very little investment back from federal taxes (they are effectively subsidizing the poorly run states) and have to make up the shortfall at the state level.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Republican deflection and propaganda. Next questions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You know why you never see elephants hiding in trees? Cause they're so fucking good.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Because every republican that talks shit about Cali act like they know everything when they literally know less than elephant shit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

California is a garden of Eden
A paradise to live in or see
But believe it or not, you won't find it so hot
If you ain't got the do re mi

Woody Guthrie, β€œDo Re Mi”

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I love California but I dislike LA.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I loved California. I just couldn't afford it anymore.

Also, their power grid has to be the only one worse than Texas. My power was ALWAYS going out there. Last time I visited my parents there, their power was out for 3 of the 7 days I was there.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Someone who lives in California not originally from here chiming in. For me personally, I hate it because of the weather. I live in SoCal, which people claim to have good weather, but to me it’s hell. It never rains, the sun is always shining, and it’s always hot while most apartments don’t have AC. This may sound lovely to you, in which case more power to you. I’m the kind of person where the sun saps all energy out of my body and I prefer being cold to warm, so this sucks. Other main downside is housing cost. My 650 square foot one bed apartment in suburban LA costs over $2000 a month and it’s cheap for the size and area. Maybe Northern California is nicer, but SoCal ain’t it

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