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Russian President Vladimir Putin has warned the West that Russia is technically prepared for a nuclear war, and that should the US send troops to Ukraine, it would be regarded as a considerable escalation of the war.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He was also ready to take Kyiv in three days. He's not that bright.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I can see it now.

Nuke America

....

Most Nukes don't launch

Three detonate in silos. Controls failed and more radiation than boom.

12 have nav failures and land in Ocean

Three land in Russia just from probability. Kill a goat or two.

One hits Sweden on its way over. Mountain disappears. ...

5 boomer subs open launch Bays to fire. Rapidly sink.

10 others attempt launch, get a torp from a following Seawolf.

30 odd surface and say they refuse to fire. We get a few great movies from it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Wait until Russia nukes China because of bad navigation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

When he threatens nukes it means he's scared.

He'll never use them, not that he can make that decision unilaterally anyway. He wants to have a legacy, not be the guy forever remembered as the reason Russia got turned into a radioactive wasteland.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Call me naive but i think even if he goes to push the button either someone else will stop him or the guy who actually launches the missile wont do it. AFAIK he doesnt have a launch button, but a "ok to launch" button, and theres a surprising history of people refusing to do so even when ordered.

Not to downplay the severity or anything, putin is a madman the world is better off without. Im worried he'll continue his warpath, but not worried he'll destroy the world if that makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Here's a summary of some of the nuclear threats Russia has made over the past few years:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_risk_during_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

For example:

Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, now deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council, said that some Ukrainian military commanders were considering hitting missile launch sites inside Russia with Western-supplied long-range missiles. ... "What does this mean? It means only one thing – they risk running into the action of paragraph 19 of the fundamentals of Russia's state policy in the field of nuclear deterrence," Medvedev wrote on the Telegram messaging app. "This should be remembered," Medvedev said. Paragraph nineteen of Russia's 2020 nuclear doctrine sets out the conditions under which a Russian president would consider using a nuclear weapo ... Medvedev made specific mention of point "g" of paragraph nineteen which deals with the nuclear response to a conventional weapons attack.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-medvedev-warns-nuclear-response-if-ukraine-hits-missile-launch-sites-2024-01-11/

Obviously, the more they keep threatening to use nukes, the less credible these threats become.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

well yeah, because no one wants to use nukes. mutually assured destruction and all that

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Christ... this shit again? And again? And again and again and again?

If I had a nickel for every time these russian parasites spewed hot sewage air and it got tagged as "newsworthy", adding yet more noise to the goddamned constant feedback loop, I could have bought myself some nice noise-cancelling headphones already.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

big, scary regime supposedly in the middle of an "offensive", but they squeal like a little thief trapped in an outhouse

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

This says to me that Putin believes US troops are as much an existensual threat to him as nukes are.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Does he know how fast he would be turned into radioactive dust if he starts a nuclear escalation with the US?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

IRC a more realistic scenario is that they do an airburst strike (limits fallout) above an unoccupied (no civlians left) part of Ukraine as a show of force. Official Russian doctrine:

Most military analysts believe that, in this case, Russia would pursue an 'escalate to de-escalate' strategy, initiating limited nuclear exchange to bring adversaries to the negotiating table. Russia will also threaten nuclear conflict to discourage initial escalation of any major conventional conflict

They think this will bring their enemies to the table.

I honestly don't think it will, after all the atrocities they've committed. More likely, they'll be fully ostracized, the west will give Ukraine even more weapons, Europe will enter the war in Ukraine, and the US will come with a conventional but devastating response.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah, at the very least there would be more funding going to Ukraine

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

He definitely does. This is all the same pointless posturing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

@lusterko IMHO 1/ Putin says s*** 2/ Even if such nuclear blackmail was to be taken seriously (and it can hardly be when you see all the allegedly "red lines" we've crossed since march 2022), defeating Russia would still be worth it for there's no possible nor acceptable future with Putin's regime.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Joke's on Putin. Half the pop of the west is already tired of living and would welcome an/the end. I know I would. So bring it mf.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You're saying there is a chance I won't have to go to work? Well ok then!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I'd like to sign this petition, please.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

@lusterko Just think, to destroy russia all it would take is two missiles, one for Moscow and one for for St. Petersburg. Most of the rest of russia lives in the Stone Age and don’t even have toilets or washing machines.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Sounds like something somebody who could fall off a roof would say.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Oh look, Pooty is signalling to his western plants to start raising the alarm of nuclear war. Jokes on him though: most of the West were never exposed to the horrors of nuclear war outside of hiding under desks to simulate how to die graciously.