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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wtf is spacebar.news. where do you find sites like this?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

This article did not present a compelling case for abandoning brave. Who cares what the founder thinks about various political issues. If the software is good, then that’s all that matters.

Don’t get me wrong, I support same sex marriage, but people have a right to oppose the concept as marriage is a government idea that is tied up in politics.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I tried Brave for maybe 2 days before going back to literally anything else. The heavy push for Crypto made me wary, and it really didn't seem to be doing anything specific to increase my privacy online.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I dont use brave, but is this how most people choose what browser to use? Weather or not the dev supports gays?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I just read an article about a browser... That somehow included a court case about hulk hogan being gay or not... I had to stop right there lol.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Such a brave article. So brave that they turned off the comments when people started bringing up valid criticisms against it. Such a cop out.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly I don't care who or what he personally donated to. But the ad model is the problem for me.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Okay, so the creator of Brave might be a bigot and some of the stuff it does with crypto currency is a little sketchy? And the ads it replaces with the blocked ads are somewhat invasive?

So disable the crypto stuff and use ad-blocking software along with its own adblocking functions.

If a mechanic fixes my car and does a really good job, but he might have some shitty opinions of gay people, as long as he fixes my car I don't care about what he might think of gay people.

Everyone needs to be aware that there's propaganda everywhere. microsoft and google REALLY want you to use their browsers and people are tired of the data MS Edge and chrome collect.

I for one, hate that chrome constantly connects other shit to your google account with just one accidental click sometimes. Edge does the same shit, but brave is the only chromium based browser that doesn't deceptively do shit like that.

I still like firefox better and I only have brave for those rare instances where firefox won't work on a website. And I don't actually believe that the creator of brave is actually a bigot. Pro-liberty, Pro-privacy and anti-surveillance types are always getting smeared as bigots when they aren't.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just because something is open source doesn't mean the people behind it have the best intentions in mind.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think one of the biggest issues with FOSS-minded people is that they automatically consider open source software private, safe and having good intentions in mind, but they never actually go beyond the surface to check if it actually is.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most people who use FOSS are not qualified to check source code for ill-intent (like me) and rely on people smarter than them (and me) to review the code and find any problems. FOSS isn't automatically private, safe, and having good intentions, but if it isn't, at least the code is transparent and the review process is open for all. Commercial software has no review, and zero transparency.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I hadn't read the details of their intended ad network. I just recall it sounded shady. Now that I read about it, it sounds very similar conceptually to Google's Privacy Sandbox. I'm not sure if this is a better or worse approach than the status quo but I surely don't trust Brave Inc, a startup with a questionable business model and investors, with gathering and processing this data.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't use Brave because of the ads and crypto currency stuff

I don't see why how one person even the CEO and founder's political beliefs from 15 years ago should stop anyone from using a product today. Unless we want to expose all 7 million+ people who voted for and passed prop 8 in 2008 and cancel them all into oblivion.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

He didn't just vote for it. He donated and doubled down on it, despite it being an acknowledgement he helped strip the rights of some of his own employees. People are free to disapprove of that behavior

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Unless we want to expose all 7 million+ people who voted for and passed prop 8 in 2008 and cancel them all into oblivion.

I'm ok with holding them accountable. I say that as someone who was bigoted (in a light way - no wish for harm, but just thought it unnatural due to how I was raised) against LGBT people when I was younger.

If you want to call me out for what I thought when I was 18yo, I can proudly accept culpability and tell you that my values have changed. I can explain why they changed. I can defend me of today while throwing me of the past under the bus. By the time Prop 8 was up for debate, I'd long-since evolved. This fucker hasn't grown, apparently.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used brave in the past sometimes still do. I don't care for the leadership. The browser is opensource and solid. I use librewolf as my main browser now though.

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