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De Vries first 3 qualifyings in 2023 vs. Ricciardo first 3 qualifyings in 2024

Tsunoda 0.721s faster than de Vries in Bahrain Tsunoda 0.305s faster than de Vries in Jeddah Tsunoda 0.236s faster than de Vries in Australia !

Average: Tsunoda 0.421s faster

Tsunoda 0.149s faster than Ricciardo in Bahrain Tsunoda 0.461s faster than Ricciardo in Jeddah Tsunoda 0.729s faster than Ricciardo in Australia !

Average: Tsunoda 0.446s faster

Data taken from the last qualifying session completed by both drivers.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Ricciardo is a spent force and I no longer think he deserves to be on the grid.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It would be really interesting to see how Ricciardo would drive his prime cars nowadays. Is he still quick in the 2013-17 Red Bull cars? Then it's probably down to how different nowadays cars are. Or is he noticeably slower even in those? Then it's him being past his prime.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Ricciardo is Arnoux confirmed?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

While true, races give points.

Bahrain Yuki P14 Ric P13 Saudi Yuki P14 Ric P16 Australia Yuki P7 Ric P12

Avg 2 positions better for Yuki

Vs

Bahrain Yuki P11 de Vries P14 Saudi Yuki P11 de Vries P14 Australia Yuki P10 de Vries DNF (let’s go with P12 for the comparison, but likely worse)

Avg 3 positions better for Yuki.

So Danny is struggling, but still getter better results than Nyck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How did you count? I feel stupid, because I can't get the same averages. But I wanted to point out that:

Bahrain Yuki P14 Ric P13

Is not fair to take into consideration. Ricciardo finished ahead because of a team order, not because he was faster.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Someone make that team order make sense

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

I really like Danny Ric (who doesn't), but I want to see Liam Lawson get a real shot at a drive.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

One of the stories this year is Yuki's clear improvement and you're treating him like a benchmark.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Same average, but de Vries was improving while Ricciardo is falling behind

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Yeah a mean average here is very much not telling the whole story!