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Best Linux Distro Privacy/Usability for a mid level user

What do you think is the best linux distro for a user who wants to migrate from windows in terms of privacy, usability and respect for the FOSS spirit?

I'm thinking to give a chance to #ElementaryOS https://elementary.io

#Linux #Privacy #FOSS @privacy @linux

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think to start, Mint or Ubuntu is a good choice, it has support for most hardware and will probably run on whatever you install it.

Also something that I think most new Linux users should focus on; instead of distro pick the desktop environment (DE). As a beginner it does not really matter if you use, lets say, a Debian- or Fedora-based distro. Pick a DE that looks pleasing to you maybe GNOME or KDE and take the installation with that DE. Maybe do not start with Arch or Gentoo as they are for more experienced users that already have some Linux experience.

Distros will be way more interesting and important when you got a hold of Linux and you want to explore the differences of them.

Last tip: Make a separated /home directory, so when you want to change to a new distro you do not have to delete all your files and start over with an empty machine.

I wish you a good start into Linux and do not hesitate to ask questions if they arise!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd recommend against ubuntu (but not against derivatives of it) because they clearly don't respect the FOSS spirit with their insistence on snaps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

True, but you can easily switch to Flatpaks and use them instead.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

At that point, why not just run mint instead?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mint all the way. Have had nothing but good experience with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So far, I understand that mint doesn't use snapd, right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

By default Mint uses Apt.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

At that point, use Mint.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@Encryption @privacy I've discarded Ubuntu due to snapd. Does Linux mint also use snapd? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Linux Mint makes a point of excluding all the Snap stuff. It's a very good distro where everything usually just works.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Mint helped me a lot when I switched from Windows. I found it very straightforward, as much as that's possible with Linux

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Distro doesn't really mater that much, desktop environment (de) is a more important choice for a new user.

Comming from windows you might like cinnamon, mate, kde plasma or gnome with ArcPanel and Dash to Dock extensions. There's also lxqt and xfce for low spec systems.

You can install any de on any distro but if you are new to linux you might want to stick with the default one.

If you want cinnamon or mate go with linux Mint.

For gnome ZorinOS looks decent. I think it comes with wine already set up to make running windows programs easier. If you have an nvidia gpu Pop!_OS comes with nvidia drivers but you'll probably want some gnome extensions like ArcMenu and Dash to Panel.

Before installing any distro you should try them out in a live usb mode or a virtual machine.

Personally I started with Cinnamon Mint but it had issues with my multi monitor set up and poor gaming performance so now I'm on gnome Pop!_OS with ArcMenu and Dash to Panel on desktop and lxqt lubuntu on laptop.

I switched from windows about a year ago and now I'm absolutely certain I'm never comming back. The first 2 weeks or so are the most difficult because you feel like you have to learn a brand new skill every time you do something basic that would take you 30 seconds in windows but once you have everything set up and are more familiar with how things are done on linux it will feel completely natural.

Good luck on your linux journey, I hope you see it through. :)

[–] possiblylinux127 8 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@privacy @linux
According to most of the responses so far, Eeementary is not the best choice. So I think I will try #LinuxMint as the first option.

https://linuxmint.com #Linux

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

@carloshr @privacy @linux Elementary used to feel way ahead of its time, now it feels a bit behind instead. Not exactly a bad distro, but also not my top pick. Linux Mint has been rock solid for me for many years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Linux Mint is great for beginners and is simular to Windows.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mint is great, it runs on my refrigerator so it should run on most other Hardware as well, and its pretty Beginner-friendly, and the community is helpful.

[–] possiblylinux127 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, its easy and just works out of the box.

[–] possiblylinux127 1 points 1 year ago

I need photo evidence. You also should post it on [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Debian. If for some reason (software) you need a RPM based distribution then openSUSE. But the good thing is that in open-source world, you can try as many as you want almost for free (you invest your time, obviously).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Debian + GNOME + Flathub. The cool thing is that you can get the flatpak/flathub repository into GNOME's "software store" so you've updated software and a very polished experience for your user.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I would recommend what looks most promising/fun to you.

personally I am staying with the "big ones". on my gaming pc I have installed fedora with kde. on my notebook(with touchscreen) I am trying Debian with gnome and eventually arch when I am clear on how I want my system to be exactly

for work and network stuff I use debian with kde.

If you are unsure I'd recommend either debian or fedora with kde. Ubuntu isn't really something for me because snap is really annoying (apt installs sometimes default to snap but don't tell you outright)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you just care about privacy, or is it your primary focus?

There are Linux distros like Tails which will be very hard to use day to day, but if you are laser focused on privacy, it's between that and CubesOS (not Linux).

Most Linux distros will give you reasonable privacy from an OS standpoint, from there it's up to you to have good practices with your data.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

There are Linux distros like Tails which will be very hard to use day to day, but if you are laser focused on privacy, it's between that and CubesOS (not Linux).

QubesOS. Also TailsOS isn't too bad if you do persistent memory and don't mind slow internet traffic over Tor. I find it plenty usable for simple browsing and downloadikg small files.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I installed Manjaro to two of my friends that I'd say are mid-level and they've been using it without problems for years. Even if it's arch-based, it comes with everything it needs to be easy to use (most importantly a graphical package manager) and because it's arch-based it never lags behind with software updates and you got the AUR if you need it. Manjaro is to Arch what Ubuntu is to Debian basically. Yes, they have fucked up a few times in the past, most notably the certificate fiascos, but none of that affects its usability for a beginner, at worst they won't be able to update for a few days while they renew the expired certificates.

Edit: and I recommend you use Plasma, it will feel very familiar if they come from Windows

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The desktop environment is much more important, I recommend going with Fedora, it's easy and has a large community and has a large amount of desktop environments to pick from.

[–] ShovelLiz 1 points 1 year ago

Fedora, mint or open suse tumbleweed. Pick your favorite DE and just give It a try. If you want to make distro hopping easier make a /home partition

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@carloshr @privacy @linux i think you should.

It's not made for customization, but I've not found a better install and run experience.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@carloshr

For privacy and "FOSS ideals" stay away from Ubuntu and RedHat.

For "easy for a Windows user", I tried switching to Linux 6-7 times over 15 years, different distro every time.

The one that finally "stuck" for me was #Mint.

Although honestly, nowadays, most of the top distros are very good. I'm also a fan of #Pop_OS

@privacy @linux

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