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So this Lemmy place is pretty awesome, and I see it growing by the hour! Just like others link external sites for content here, we should really also share Lemmy content to external (e.g. Reddit, Twitter, etc.) to show others where the users are going now.

Redditors will talk about Lemmy and moving communities here, but it is really best shown that the communities are rebuilding here. Thoughts? I’ve started with a few memes and am starting a new community here as well!

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yesterday I searched a question and for the first time google linked a Lemmy thread with the answer.

Asking and solving questions will bring users.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How does someone search Google?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Using a browser, navigate to the following URL: www.google.com

In the search bar, type the query you would like to make and hit ENTER

Then you're done!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You forgot the step where you have to scrolls to at least 2 pages of ads disguised as results

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Step 0: install an Adblock like UBlock Origin on your browser.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

D: demonstrate interest in a topic by communicating it clearly around your phone.

E: engage with ads in the same vien as the question you're looking for.

N: NEVER use an AdBlock. This throws off the algorithm as it can't track how long you take before scrolling past an ad.

N: News. what news do you engage with? Contrary to expected behavior, google actually spends more resources trying to sway dissent from their opinion more than it rewards its supporters! Talk about breaking up monopolies, talk about tax havens, or even bing.

I: Invest wisely. Have money in the bank. They'll know. The more money you have the bigger fish you are in the pond. The more they'll target you.

S: Search. Go to google.com, they have a bar you can type in. Put in your question, hit search, and if you follow these steps, you'll get what you were looking for.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This. The reason I originally joined Reddit was because it solved a problem I had (easily aggregating answers on various topics). That's how we get people on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I kind of agree, but it needs to be done in a nice way like if you have already written an answer on lemmy to a question which also shows up on reddit then post a link to it instead of copy and pasting it there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I like this, sharing when there’s value to share, rather than just sharing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is the way. I think of it as offering breadcrumbs to those on other platforms. Since the posts are freely viewable without signing up, it's no different than a news or web link.

You can also turn this around. If you are still monitoring reddit, consider making a post in the appropriate sub answering the question (assuming it's a generic-ish request) and then link back to it in the community here.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I don't think there should be a big push until more polished apps come out that make the whole process as dead simple as possible. No need to know what instances are. Right now this is how imagine the average person would react after trying it out.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Oh my god, lmao. Yes. How is there even a video so perfect for this situation. I joined kbin instead because having a website demand I pick an instance in order to even sign up when I barely understood what that meant or how they worked was quite genuinely making me panic, and taking my time with it was not helping like it was supposed to.

It's so normal to me now that I almost forget until I have to explain any part of it to someone. "Oh, don't worry about joining this one over that one, you're technically joining every site and also twitter and instagram. That button? It's the reblog button. It functions as an upvote but some people don't have it. Other people don't have a downvote, but it might still be visible on your screen anyway. If there's a site you hate, you can mute the whole thing, or maybe you can't. If there's a site you love, your admin might disappear them and you'll need a second account to see it again. Have fun!"

Horrible. Why do I love it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's never a good idea explaining the whole idea to someone right at the start unless they ask.

I've always just directed people straight to a big instance with lots of home communities, like lemmy.world or kbin.social. After they jump in and have questions, that's the right time to talk about instances, not before.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly. The more shit you throw into someone’s face, the more confused they will be. Give ‘em enough of a taste that they can see the positives, and let ‘em slowly work through the quirks as they find ‘em.

Besides, I personally think having a bit of a ‘filter’ is good anyway; the scroll zombies at Reddit who’re siding with the admins sorta make me worry about this place getting too big.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There's even a scene talking about decentralized internet which is so perfect for this attempted push to the fediverse too.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

haha. I just got through watching Silicon Valley. Great show. Y'all should check it out

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@NightOwl

More polished apps and more fleshed out features. Lemmy has potential, but there are so many quirks right now it's like a chore to actually utilize.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I think everyone needs to wait and see what kind of migration happens after July 1st. Seems like these places are better suited for slow growth from my observation.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm happy with the amount of users and activity Lemmy currently has. It doesn't really need go grow though any means other than organically imo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh, it's still missing a ton of smaller and even medium sized communities. Pick video games and TV shows for example. A bunch don't have a community or only have a dead one with zero or one posts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's debatable whether a lot of these smaller communities really provided much value outside the tiny userbase they have.

Besides, if someone wants to pick up the mantle on Lenny they are more than welcome to as well.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

An iOS and android app would be helpful in making lemmy more accessible

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lemmy already has a few apps for Android like Jerboa,Connect for Lemmy,and Liftoff. IOS has mlem and probably a few more. They're not yet as good as reddit TPAs but they're there and being actively developed.

I think it's kbin that needs an app rn as it's growing rapidly and the only app i know for it (Artemis) is still in alpha.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apollo for Lemmy or kbin, made by the same dev, would be absolutely wonderful. Unfortunately, I think he’s given up on social media apps entirely.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That sucks. I'm not on IOS but apl the feedback I heard from people is that Apollo is a great app.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m using Memmy, whose UI is inspired by Apollo. It’s not perfect, but functional and looks great! You can use it through TestFlight

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Memmy is my vote as well. It’s actually wild how quickly it’s come into shape

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Voyager is amazing, and works on both iOS and Android

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It would probably be better to just let it ride and see how it goes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

If content is good enough, it will escape containment. Let the system do its thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I am kinda missing my favorite communities from Reddit:

  • vinyljerk
  • blackmetalvinyl
  • lolgrindr
  • vinylreleases

I wish those will receive a counterpart one day or just move here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

One of the few small communities I’ll be sad to lose is HyruleEngineering. Can’t believe Reddit decided to shit the bed right when I found it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Someone recreated that community here!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For what it’s worth, they also have an active discord server

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't really get discord. Does everyone just kind of talk at once? Like a giant group chat instead of topical threads?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You can be the change you want to see in the world. if you search the communities and can't find the one you're looking for, make it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What I'm missing are the fintech/trading subs that were pretty active. Not just meme-tier junkfood like wallstreetbets, but actual strategy/implementation stuff like ThetaGang and AlgoTrading.

The thing is, I haven't found that stuff on Mastodon either. AFAICT the Fediverse at large leaning hard leftist/progressive means there's a cultural bias against finance-adjacent topics. Bolstering this, I've encountered on various Discord servers that traders tend to be pretty largely right-wing, which has consistently put me in direct conflict with them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been posting to my work slack.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I hope the three day poop saga didn't get you called into HR

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We've got a good "seed community". We need to move on from "anti-Reddit" and towards "Lemmy-community building". This is a hard step forward.

We don't know what each other's interests are, we don't know how many #RedditBlackout communities existed (I mean, we have some ideas. "mtgzone.com" and "programming.dev")... but we don't know if we can create say... an Advance Wars community (Nintendo Game), or if we need to stick to just Nintendo as our topic.

I think keeping to !Newcommunities, and trying to organize ourselves into our different branches of knowledge / discussion is the near term goal. What DO we have as a community? Clearly we're all willing to leave Reddit (and some of us here were willing to leave Reddit last year, long before #RedditBlackout), but for long-term sustainability, we need to get deeper connections than that.


Ideally, we can grow some of these communities to be the best place on the internet for that subject. For example, /r/Factorio was one of the premier places to study Factorio strategies (Video game). But Reddit wasn't the best at say, AVR (AVRFreaks was a better site for that). That's fine, having a 2nd tier or lesser site is still useful for an overall hangout spot that's more casual.

I think Lemmy has a lot of opportunity in community building because of its Reddit-like structure (more similar than Mastodon was to Twitter). With some custom GUIs, we can build new video game communities with custom GUIs (ex: Chess .pgn viewers: https://github.com/mliebelt/PgnViewerJS) to further discussions in ways impossible to the original Reddit (more akin to PhpBB), but still with the advantages of single-sign-on / federation to join up a bunch of other communities.

That's the direction we should be going, IMO anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yea we need to all start engaging content we like as if it was reddit. There will probably be another influx of new people come July. As such we need their first impression to be that lemmy has an actual community beyond being burned by reddit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Could you please add a "Why YSK:"? It's rule #2. :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sign ups in many instances becoming application-only certainly does not help Lemmy grow.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Best marketing is the perfect use case that didn't exist in people's lives beforehand. The Reddit threads with nurses helping elderly people do AMAs were extremely endearing.

Young kids being able to shitpost nonsensically was also cool.

Make something original happen and it draws in people that recognise something new. Otherwise it's all cats and homies doing narrative subscription.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

On Android, link people to Sync for Lemmy, and Jerboa which is quite similar to RIF.

And Memmy for Lemmy heavily inspired by Apollo on iOS.

People mad about apps will move; they can't if they don't know where those apps are going.

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