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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not to be the bad guy here, but as an average person, somewhen you reach a point of feasibility where it is just so freaking hard. Like, ok, we don't own a car, we don't drive. We rely on walking, public transportation and biking every now and then. We barely ever eat meat. We try not to buy imported fruit and vegetables, that one avocado every other month is more like a celebrated treat for our toddler. Try to avoid stuff wrapped in plastic. We avoid, reuse, recycle. Don't buy new clothes, hardly buy clothes for us grown ups at all. Most presents our girl gets are pre owned, too. We line dry our clothes that we wash with as little detergent as possible, as rarely as possible, at the lowest temperature that still does the job.

But we live in a rental that heats with gas (as do a lot of Germans). We try to heat to a bare minimum despite having a small kid at home, we tried adjusting to cooler temperatures but below 18° room temperature during the day we just couldn't do it in the winter. Not to mention the mold. We buy the organic, fair trade coffee, knowing fully well that we shouldn't drink coffee in the first place. I type this from a phone that is not even 18 months old since my other phone got so unbearably slow it was unusable in everyday life.

And I feel bad about those things. I feel bad about every time I buy a coffee in a paper cup (and if I knew I would need a coffee to go I would have brought one from home to begin with so of course I don't have a reusable cup on me either). I feel bad about our toothbrushes because they have plastic in them and about my mascara coming in a plastic container. I feel bad about picking up a toy kitchen with a family member's car instead of using public transport. I feel bad I cannot afford to go to those shops where they sell foods unwrapped and that I cannot always get the organic options. Hell I feel bad because I don't know which option is the better one, the regional apples in a plastic packaging or the imported ones without or the organic ones from somewhere in between and I feel like I should know for every item.

But I just don't know how to go further. I don't want to brush my teeth with sticks and I don't want to make my own deodorant. But I feel like I will forever be at fault and owe my daughter everything until I literally live in a cave. Maybe it's like this 80/20 rule but I feel like 80 is just not enough. That kid deserves 100, she doesn't deserve excuses that something is too hard or not feasible.

We're trying. We really are, my dear. And I am so sorry we are failing you and we cannot give 100%, be it for financial or practical reasons.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You seem like a good person but damn your life seems exhausting

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Life itself isn't exhausting, it is actually pretty easy, but my mind exhausts me. There is this feeling of guilt that I cannot shake off. Whatever I do, I will never be able to escape the use of fossil fuels completely. I will always need to choose the lesser evil of two options. Maybe there would be a better way of life but as so many other things, you need to be able to afford that kind of lifestyle. And in some way I realize that whatever I do is miniscule on the greater scheme of things. But it doesn't eleviate the feeling of guilt. Yeah my individual impact is so miniscule I didn't even try to bother isn't exactly what I want to tell my child when they grow up and ask what I have done while the world was being set on fire (not just ecologically speaking).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'll be dead before the worst happens

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

My interpretation has always been "I love you, just not enough to inconvenience myself".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, that's not just boomer love but anybody that's wealthy and heavily invested in Big Oil/Gas.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And what demographic would that be :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, there are some early Gen Xers that are part of that demographic but to your point!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mid Gen-X here. The Gen-X sub on Reddit shows the clear difference between old Gen-X (1965 to ~1970) and everyone else. The running joke was that the dividing line was banana and BMX bike seats.

The cultural differences are huge between born in 1965 and 1975.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I would say Gen X doesn't actually exist, except on paper, that they're just a continuation of Boomer and Millennial, right where that split happened.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sadly not just boomers any more Gen-x and millennials are buying the Tonka trucks for big Bois and hiding their companies responsibilities to the environment.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

More like "I don't trust people in power, even when they say fossil fuels are bad."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, all these powerful scientists running the world...

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't have to trust people in power, you can just look at the climate disasters happening all over the world at an accelerating pace each and every year.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What climate diasters? Its hot in the summer? Hurricanes still happen?

Its a slow boil, and its hard to tell the progression. We all learned how you can lie with stats in high school, and it looks just like that.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you genuinely believe that then you're beyond hope.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't? Im saying that its hard to tell from the events that things are getting worse, or at least for a layman. And its easy to convince youself you're being lied to.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't even have to look at the news to find out things are getting worse. It's hotter with more heat waves and more extreme weather happening basically everywhere. Less and less snow in the winter too for the places that get snow.

Even without looking at the news, I have noticed things have changed from my childhood.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know man. When I was a kid, summers were hot. And now 20 years later, summers are still hot. Without someone logging it, and me believing that person, I would have no idea that its getting hotter.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im doxxing myself a little here, but I remember as a kid, we would have a month of 115 degree weather. And today the high is 105 degrees. I don't think it reached 110 this summer. If I wasn't paying attention, I wouldn't notice a thing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's cool. I'm glad that we have your completely subjective experience to put our minds at ease.

Hey everyone. Your hear this person? Climate change is a myth. Today's weather is cooler than some randomly selected month is this Lemmy user's past. Let's keep pumping that dead dinosaur juice into our atmosphere!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No its not a myth. Do you lack reading comprehension? Lack the ability to hold hypothetical in your head?

Im saying that without trusting people, I wouldn't know climate change exists. I do trust those people, so I do know about climate change.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your comment above denying the existence of increasing climate disasters suggests otherwise. Forgive me for actually reading through the entire comment thread with my horrendous comprehension.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't deny jack shit. Learn to read and to hold a hypthetical in your head.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I apologize if I misunderstood what you meant. Sometimes meaning gets lost over text blah blah. Anyway, I'm going to touch some grass now. I hope that you have a nice day.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

It's not hard to tell at all from the events that things are getting worse. One has to be utterly ignorant of what's happening in the world to claim that. The fact that somebody could genuinely believe what you're saying is frankly depressing.