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KBin has taken over Lemmy in monthly active users count (szmer.info)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Looks like KBin has an edge over Lemmy now in terms of monthly active users.

It's obviously a pretty silly thing, and is not in any way indicative of which project is "better" or more "long-term viable" or anything — instances of both federate with one another, and with the rest of fedi, so it's all one happy family.

That said, it's notable. KBin is a relative newcomer to the "Reddit-like fedi instance" game, and also does not have the tankie baggage.

Anyway, the more, the merrier!

KBin: https://the-federation.info/platform/184

Lemmy: https://the-federation.info/platform/73

Discussion on fedi: https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/110527049024028986

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

in the short term we have a few upcoming critical mod tool launches we need to nail

Umm, you really should have launched this before shutting down the current tools mods use.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (18 children)

Hmm, interesting. I just spent some time getting a Lemmy instance set up -- maybe I should've gone for kbin instead?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

I tried kbin but it currently slow as hell at least for me. It definitely is more inviting with its design though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Any ideas what are the pros and cons of each option?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

If I were to switch from Lemmy to KBin (or vice versa), would I have to start over (e.g. create a new account there and loae all my comments etc.)? Or would it be possible to "migrate"?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

I want to like kbin, but I understand beehaw and Lemmy instances better. For the life of me, I cannot figure out the syntax to find communities/instances that are not local to kbin. They have some great "magazines", but I've already started following some communities on other Lemmy instances, so if I opt to use the kbin server and their UI, I need to be able to figure out how to find the communities I'm already participating in.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What are the pros and cons of one platform over the other? Is KBin just Lemmy+Mastodon? Can Lemmy see KBin magazines?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Yep, thread based communities are shared perfectly between Lemmy and kbin. Other than currently the largest kbin community is having federation issues due to the influx of users

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (10 children)

just looked for the first time, I really do prefer kbin's UI to Lemmy's right now at least the default web client. Is there value in running both or just one?

I notice I can see mastadon posts on lemmy as well but how do I find stuff on Kbin or Mastadon from lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's what I think most of us newcomers are struggling to figure out right now. Do I need a Mastadon account and a Lemmy account, or can I just use one to see the rest? Is there a better Android app or other website to integrate it all? Is matrix.org a part of all of this fediverse stuff?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

what you need is what you want, personally im working my way around, I also notice that while fediverse content is technically connected, im not seeing a clean way to fully intereact with or browse mastadon or kbin content like i can lemmy content. It seems you still need to be ON these various apps if you want discoverability to be fully functional.

something i would expect will be fixed in the future.

personally ill be running instances of a number of fediverse apps and then keeping the apps i like.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Can someone please explain the "tankie baggage"?
I understand the words, but not the history.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Here you go.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Nice to see the fediverse growing no matter where it is. As long as we can all communicate it doesn't matter what instance or software we're on.

Sidenote: is kbin a fork of lemmy? Or a different codebase entirely?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Completely different codebase, written in PHP instead of Rust.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Are you comparing kbin to all of the lemmy fediverse?

Because kbin is part of the fediverse and has as far as I understand been bigger then the biggest lemmy instances for a while by a good margin?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

kbin.social currently has 20k + users. However it currently has federation disabled due to the traffic is receiving. Edit: It isn't 100k

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Federation isn't disabled directly. The admin put the instance behind a cloudflare proxy, which breaks the ActivityPub federation without further tweaking to open up the relevant ports. He's working on loosening up that restriction to get federation working properly again.

Edit: Also kbin.social currently sits at ~126k users.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's a bit funny to be like "federation is what will make this great" and then "federation blows us up, so we're turning it off".

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