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So my company decided to migrate office suite and email etc to Microsoft365. Whatever. But for 2FA login they decided to disable the option to choose "any authenticator" and force Microsoft Authenticator on the (private) phones of both employees and volunteers. Is there any valid reason why they would do this, like it's demonstrably safer? Or is this a battle I can pick to shield myself a little from MS?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (8 children)

And here I am wishing they would come out with an authenticator watch app, so I didn't have to do all the work of taking my phone out of my pocket and swiping a few times.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

What's needed is an online 2fa service that just takes a username and copies the code to the clipboard.

/s before I get any replies.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It used to exist, and it was glorious!

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago
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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

You have the right not to use your personal hardware for work, and the employer must provide the necessary equipment to accomplish your job.

Ask if you could get a hardware token (ie: Yubikey Security Key) instead of using Microsoft Authenticator to fulfill the security requirements. It's low cost and doesn't require a subscription unlike a cellphone plan.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

If you don't care about the money you get paid every fortnight then go ahead. Nobody cares! For employers , you are just a number and for you ,employer is the means to get paid.

If you don't need the money then fuck it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I know Google has a way to "force" you to only use their app, and that's strictly enforced for personal MFAs (I haven't verified that recently), I didn't have that kind of trouble not using the MS one, but I'm not sure my org was as strict as yours on that "force MS" option.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

...it won't let me edit my other comment but I wanted to add that YES using MFA is demonstratively far more safe than any password you can set.

With a multi factor enabled you could literally give your password out and people could not access your account without being able to complete that second layer of security.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

we have o365 and while i do have the authenticator, you should also be able to add a phone number or email address for text/email codes instead of the authenticator (i know my coworker doesn't have the authenticator but gets codes to her sms)

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Do like a friend of mine. He has a 15 dollar a month phone(mint mobile) that he uses for all his job related bullshit. Its all it does and he has no personal accounts on it at all. It kinda sucks that they insist on him using his own equipment for it but its the cheapest way to keep them out of his personal life.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Would you even need a monthly plan for this kind of thing? It just needs to be able to install the app and run it. If it needs internet you can connect to WiFi. You can get a sim free android for about ยฃ50 outright now.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

You do if you want to provide that as your "work" number. Unless you're going to jump though VoIP hoops.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

When setting up the authentication when it asks you to set up Microsoft authenticator there should be a drop-down at the bottom of the page that says use another option that will allow you to use a phone call or text message as your chosen method of authentication.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I am in IT and I feel like I speak for the industry we don't care. Some of my customers have regulators who make arbitrary and capricious decisions with a minimal understanding of infosec but we have to keep the customer compliant.

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