Well that was a frustrating read. I don't get it. Why are people so okay with reddit treating them like garbage?
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Those are Gamers™.
They aren't exactly people known for their critical thinking. They are however known for eating a whole bunch of shit from game publishers and devs, even going as far as thanking them for being able to buy said crap-sandwich.
I was going to say, "Gamers are being buttholes? No way."
At least here they're being shit on like the weak-willed idiots they are.
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1494sa8/gaming_is_now_public
Those are most likely the same people who think games should have paid dlc on day one and paywalls in games. Best to never think about em until they are all crying that Reddit turns into 90% ads for onlyfans
Frankly one of my favorite parts about the blackout - and opinions like this - is that Lemmy is going to end up being populated by people who have the capacity to think about others and form intelligent opinions. All of the people with this attitude will stay on reddit, which is what will ultimately kill it. I hope he stays.
An unfortunate corollary of that is that we can only have a limited good time in the Fediverse. Eventually Reddit collapses and then they will all flock over and ruin it for us. (Or this’ll happen very gradually rather than suddenly.)
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I don’t think anyone has a problem with a business trying to make money. The problem is the extortionate pricing and also not having things in place for mods or the communities with accessibility needs. And the timeframe in which the change is being implemented is ludicrous. And that isn’t even touching on the literal libel stating that Christian was blackmailing them.
Exactly!! The protest wasn't solely about the API changes but people were also protesting /u/spez and his blatant lies to try and shift blame onto other people, which he just loves doing
This is exactly why I moved to Lemmy.
People like to dig their head in the sand and pretend nothing is wrong. As long as their little lives aren’t disrupted, they go along with anything. I can’t say I entirely blame them, everyone just wants to come home from work/school and scroll on their stupid little app till they fall asleep and don’t have the energy to care. That’s literally what I do every night :/
But we have more power than we think. The first day of the blackout was great, people working together to say fuck you to capitalism, but going back to normal before any changes are made is not how protesting works.
100% agreed, the protest should've lasted indefinitely and having it be only 48 hours was such a stupid idea. But like you said the start of the protest was fantastic and it had the potential to really make an impression that people are serious about this.
well we did find another app or website
99.9% of their userbase weren't even aware of third party apps, which frustrates me even more.
Yes, but remember the 1% rule. 90% of users lurk, 9% comment, 1% contribute. The power users upset at this change are at least in the 9%, if not the 1%, and enough of them go, the site grinds to a halt for the other 90%.
It looks like a lot of ~~people~~ idiots think the blackout is pointless and support Reddit’s choice
These aren't real people. These are Bots.
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When the blackouts started, I decided to leave reddit permanency for Lemmy, a decision that I don't regret. I checked back in briefly today and it seems like reddit is currently tearing itself apart. There's definitely a lot more people vocally disagreeing with the blackout now.
That’s good to hear! I haven’t looked. Hopefully word gets out about Lemmy and more people join us over here.
There’s definitely a lot more ~~people~~ bots vocally disagreeing with the blackout now.
FTFY.
Of course, there are indeed plenty of real people, along with bots, disagreeing. Their daily Reddit routine has been disrupted, and they don't like it. Of course, these folks aren't generally affected (so far) by API changes, so they just want things to go back to what they were. They don't understand what is coming, given the mod issues, etc.
Yeah, it will be interesting to see how things change once Apollo, RIF, Sync, and others go offline in two weeks.
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I hope they do stay there. I don't want their drivel here. 🤷 If the main thing on their mind is being angry with the blackout, I can only imagine the content they would contribute to their communities anyway. 😵💫
Yeah, it's crazy how many people would shill for a company because theyre slightly inconvenienced
"I can't use Reddit for two days 😭"
Boo-fucking-hoo.
I don't care.
The funny thing is, if reddit's app wasn't such a raging piece of garbage, I might have considered staying. But because it's such a putrid waste of space I literally just cannot use the site any more.
When RIF goes, so does reddit for me. I primarily use the site on my phone, so a good app is vital. And if none exists, then, well... What to do?
Then again, if it wasn't this, then I am sure they have removed old.reddit instead. And for the few times I am on my PC to look at reddit, I would not have been able to stomach it.
TLDR; the reddit app is genuinely an affront to all things sacred in the world.
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That one comment saying "the mods take it too seriously, they act like they get paid" How anyone could use that as an argument against the blackout is beyond me
Tbh it's like the Twitter migration. Anybody who actually cares has left and it's mostly dickheads that remains now.
Predictable and moronic reactions.
- Some people just love to feel superior by mocking people who demand change
- Some people love to feel superior by pretending they knew that this would happen
- Some people love to feel superior by implying the other side are clueless kids, hippies, idiots who know nothing about the real world.
I think the whole reddit issue can be summed up very concisely. The users liked reddit because it was simple to use, free of ads and other distracting bullshit. That's how they got big. But there's no money in that. For some reason, investors still threw money at it. Now, they want their money back and reddit has 2000 employees. They need to find more and more ways to make money, which effectively kills the reason reddit got popular in the first place.
TL;DR don't invest gazillions in a site simply because it has many users.
I think it's important to remember a lot of people participating in the blackout are still on a break from Reddit and aren't commenting on these kinds of posts.
Anyway, we did indeed "just find another app or website", so we're good.
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I do think the blackouts are pointless, but I absolutely do not support Reddit Inc. in any way.
What the moderators should do instead of blackouts, is to stop moderating and let all the major subreddits be overrun by spam and hatespeech. Good luck with your IPO and with finding advertisers after that. That would have been a much more effective way to communicate how valuable the volunteers at Reddit are.
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I have to say imo it would be awesome if the "Rexxit" leads to a split between people interested in tech and ready for change and the "normies" that just want to see funny cat pictures. I am mightily impressed by the whole Lemmyverse and all the stuff one can do here.
There are lots of corporate bootlickers coming out of the woodwork. I wouldn’t be surprised if they turn out to be Reddit employee sockpuppet accounts.
As a mod, I've gotten: hate mail, death threats, and Reddit cares notifications for posting that we would be restricted indefinitely.
Looks like a lot of the toxic boot-lickers will be staying on Reddit.
they all have exactly the same tactics -
make some bullshit point that ignores the actual ideals behind the protest ignore any and all answers, just yelling that same bullshit point over and over again, keep on yelling to attempt to derail conversation get banned send modmail get muted
In other words the person admits to being ableist as the API change is killing apps that help those with disabilities, unlike reddits app
When inevitably the next fuck up afflicts reddit, and it will, those of use who already converted to lemmy or whatever will have made and even better home. Each time it happens, the alternatives will be made stronger, and reddit will come back weaker.
People on reddit say the blackout is pointless, but it brought awareness to reddit's shitty behavior towards its community. Of course the 2 day protest would not bring down reddit, but it showed they don't care about the community concerns by not changing their stance at all. Why would I continue using that site then? These recent events have made me feel like not using reddit anymore so I won't.
A lot of it is due to some lack of information, and a lot of news outlets only telling part of the story.
I was seeing stuff on CNBC, Reuters, and Louis Rossman and stuff on youtube talking about the protests, and everyone one of them leaves out critical information. Some people see it as moderators being upset about losing tools, others see it as third party app developers being upset about having to pay a fee to reddit. But they leave out that moderators are volunteers and arent paid to moderate, and would have to pay to be able to do so from a third party app. Or that reddit is asking for a ridiculous amount of money in less than a month for app developers to access their APIs. Overall theyll talk about a few points but miss on others.
It creates a lack of a sense of urgency or meaning to all this. "Regular people" think no one wants to pay reddit and get stuff for free, or that mods are power tripping.
But theres still 15 days before apps shut down and then people may change their tune once they cant access reddit using their favorite app of choice.
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