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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

all good things come to an end

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I did not use Apollo. I used the alien blue / official Reddit app. It’s not the best Reddit client out out there. The thing that annoyed me the most is the toxic masculinity and the deterioration of subreddits in the last few months. I don’t know the challenges that mods face with regards to api changes, but the line for me is when spez talked about musk and twitter. I mean, I left twitter almost a month into acquisition as things got very toxic and inflamed. I have a suspicion Reddit will go into a slow death spiral with content being just reposts from tik tok(which was already happening).

At the end of the day, I find lemmy a bit more palatable for two reasons, it’s slow moving and there is quality content, and not just some staged videos from tik tok. If I wanted to see tik toks I’ll be in TikTok.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I’m less driven by philosophy and more driven but whatever is available to use via my phone apps

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I’ve been following Lemmy and the fediverse in general for a while so I’m excited about this new energy. Like others have said, my reason for leaving Reddit specifically are:

  • I won’t ever use the official app, fuck ads and bad U
  • it sounds like old Reddit is going away, and I can’t stand new Reddit
  • a platform more resilient to this type of changes is appealing
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The API change fiasco and the fallout from it was definitely the straw that broke the camel's back for me, but if I'm being completely honest all the other missteps and fuck-ups from the company were pushing me closer and closer to finding an alternative for years. I stayed for as long as I did mainly because it was a good place to get news and interact with various niche communities, but really Lemmy does all of that just as well, for the most part.

That said though, I don't think I would've been as ready to leave Reddit were it not for Elon buying Twitter and absolutely fucking that up too. That was the main thing that got me to look into alternative social media sites in the first place, though I haven't been as fruitful with finding a good Twitter replacement yet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

How they handled the third party thing and the I don't give fuck attitude in the whole context. To me reddit is the baconreader and without it I won't use it. I'm happy that I managed to get on board of this new thing here and I like it very much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Been wanting to quit reddit for a few years. Recent incidents just accelerated the process. I will still visit few smaller subreddits from time to time as I still see the original reddit charm in those places.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The CEO basically said fuck you to like 15% of users, and hes doubling down on lies about it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Spez has chased away the most active users and mods. Only lurkers and addicts will stay in the long run. This will hurt reddit. Hopefully.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To be honest I'm still winding down there.

But for me, once the blind moderators said they can't work with the new system, that's pretty definitive for me. When people with disabilities have found and built their own ways to exercise equal power with others and protect their communities, and then those ways are wantonly taken away from them — yeah, that's bad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The tone shift, mainly. I mean, I knew it was going downhill, but I didn't realize it'd happen so quickly until the huge shift in tone after the protests. Then it kinda clicked that "whoa this place is turning into a shithole fast".

It's good old cancer. The influx people don't really know how to use the community, they don't "get it", and now there are enough of them to resist being driven away. It's unstoppable now. Every sub slowly turns into a shitpost sub, bit by bit, as the negatively creeps in subtly.

A single mod team can't hold it back, trolls are too smart for that, and trolling mods is too fun. It takes a larger community culture to keep them at bay. Lose that ... and watch for yourself. Should take a year or two, off the top of my head. Not even r/humansbeingbros with a mod army could withstand the coming times of darkness and despair. It would merely be the Rivendell among Sauron's endless hordes. lol

I gotta admit, I thought reddit was immune. The karma system. But a critical mass of users is capable of undermining and subverting it, and then spez came. While he could backtrack and possibly cure the cancer by inspiring some decency again, I don't think that's very likely. No profit in that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

other people did, finally

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Censorship and notification off-topic advertisements

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's a lot of reasons.

  1. Reddit always felt like "The Inquirer" magazine to me. It was mostly trashy gossip, but I had a few forums that had good discussions.

2 I'm not really involved in any of the commercialized social media platforms because I don't like feeling like I'm the product. I don't like feeling like I'm being manipulated by an algorithm. I don't use YouTube or Facebook or any if the others either. I liked Reddit in that I could just browse without an account.

  1. My phone and computer is my most personal storage. It's my diary, bank account, addressbook, calendar, personal correspondence and more. I can change my life and become a digital hermit, but I shouldn't have to. For this reason and #2, I only install applications on my phone and computer that I can trust will behave alongside all that juicy data about my life. I trust my spouse, doctor and lawyer with this information and no one else. This means that your spy app (Reddit app, too) doesn't get to be on my phone or computer. I only run apps that I can view the source code for (with a few exceptions, like banking). Same for the operating system (sorry, Apple. Sorry, Google). I know it's not bulletproof, but it's better than most.

  2. Finally, I didn't know that there was an alternative. When this API stuff started, I first learned about Lemmy and Mastodon.

There's a lot more, but Lemmy's what I've been looking for for some time now, I just needed a nudge.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

where do I start, censorship, the free speech side died as soon as the Chinese investors came in, the owners not giving the third party any leeway, and of course my favourite apps going, but im praying Lemmy become the new reddit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I ain't using that goofy orange app.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I used Reddit is Fun for about 7 years, I can't imagine going back to the official app with its clunky format even on the most compact setting and its hundreds of trackers mining user data for who knows what. The browser version still a useful enough tool for news, but that only lasts as long as users keep posting. Once they migrate here or somewhere else, that's the end for Spez's moneymaking scheme. I heard the RIF developer's working on an app for Tilde, but Connect for Lemmy has been a pretty good alternative so far.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Reddit screwed reddit aka reddit fucked reddit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Lemmy is to Reddit what Mastodon is to Twitter so I want to give it a try. I confess I haven't left Reddit but I've certainly lessened my presence including removing their app.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Spez and getting rid of 3rd party

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Death of the 3rd party apps. I used to use BaconReader but switched to Sync for Reddit a couple of years ago. Both way above and beyond the official reddit app that's full of bloat and ads (unless you pay for gold).

They really just didn't seem like they were going to bring the functionality of a lot of the 3rd party apps so I can't see myself using their official app long term.

Oh, plus the Sync dev said he is creating an app for Lemmy, which I had never heard of before this, so that's how I found myself here!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They killed RIF and Apollo.

Also, they killed off edgy content like /r/imgoingtohellforthis. And censorship got out of control. Sadly, I expect the same will happen here. But I remain cautiously optimistic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A less toxic alternative got enough users.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

because they killed off FOSS 3rd party apps, and companies like that don't deserve my data

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I left when Reddit started effectively taking over subreddits by forcing them to open or change their content to what Reddit thought it should be. I was planning on paying for Reddit premium so I could keep using it ad-free. I am sympathetic to Reddit’s desire to make a profit. But when they started effectively taking over subreddits it stopped being the Reddit I like and I’ll never return.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Losing Apollo for one.

But what really actually disgusted me was how Spez is throwing people like Christian under the bus.

I would’ve gladly paid for Apollo and given Reddit a fair cut. Not anymore. Lemmy seems pretty great so far.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My main reason? The administration team, I can understand needing money and wanting to charge for the API services, and while they were higher than normal I would have probably been okay with paying a subscription to help keep the third party app I was using running.

That was until I saw the CEOs response to the development community and anyone who remotely asked about it. That was before he absolutely butchered the ama, and before he slandered one of the largest third-party developers in the community, and then when being called with evidence the bull crap he was spreading instead decided to attack said Community member saying that he didn't realize that it was recorded and that he stands by what he said. That was before he decided to threaten the moderator teams on the platform who may I remind you was working for free as volunteers comparing them to a landed gentry.

It is very clear that what he says publicly is polar opposite of how he administrates, he may say that Reddit is an open Community where the community has final say, but his actions say completely otherwise; it's his way or the highway. And since he is the CEO of the platform I'm choosing the highway and clearly I'm not the only one.

At this point even if he decided to do a complete 180, and made a formal apology to the site and reversed the actions of the API changes(which I personally think financially wise would be unwise they should have funneled it into Reddit Gold somehow) I wouldn't go back, it's clear how the leadership is on the site and quite frankly that's not something I want to contribute to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I haven't officially left yet. I'm using the patched app with Revanced. If that somehow gets nuked though I don't know what I'll do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I've had the patched official app for awhile, but will not be using it right now as a form of protest. I'm still on reddit, but will be sticking to desktop only.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Reddit is no longer accessible through Apollo. That’s really it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Same reason as everyone else, I reckon.

Apollo is the only way I’ve used reddit for about 6 years.

I don’t want ads, and I don’t want my data serving as an asset to capitalist pigs!

the fediverse was/is quite a daunting platform. I’m here for the long run (hopefully), but I worry that it will either continue to be a relatively vacant space compared to other media, or crumble under the weight of unexpected operating costs.

To anyone who has been here for quite some time, I ask you: what are some useful tricks to make the most out of the service?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Obviously losing the third party apps and spez's lies about the Apollo dev were the big ones, but honestly, I have had negative feelings towards the reddit community for a long time. Everyone is perpetually negative. They seem like miserable people. And the fact that every single comments section was same 3 fucking jokes repeated over and over and over. "I'm grieving my wife who passed away this morning" "I also choose this guy's dead wife." "Hahahahahahahahahahahahalolololoollolololol" "no it's okay, the guy who the original joke is about thinks it's funny, so it's not offensive to say it to this guy."

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