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I personally am fine with this.

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[–] [email protected] 118 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Yep, should be standard everywhere

..... for accounts you actually give a shit about

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

And not via SMS

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And not the twitch way, where you have to have in an identifier, your phone number, but using proper, standards ways for it, like TOTP and such

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

As the other commenter said, only if you give them your phone number, and only through that garbage authy that does not use standard TOTP, but some proprietary crap, specifically made for twitch.

And if you give them a phone number, which another user will also try to use in the future, then the secret used for TOTP can change in any moment, which means if you exported the secret to e.g. Aegis and deleted that tracking filled garbage that is named authy, at one point the codes just won't work anymore, and you're practically locked out. Apparently support should be able to help, but they don't give a single fuck.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

emphasis on the

… for accounts you actually give a shit about

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (5 children)

While you are adding this anyway consider using an open source app instead of google auth like aegis. There are many others but I wish I knew about them sooner.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I personally love keeweb. Passwords and 2fa all in one place.

I mean you could argue that defeats the purpose of having 2fa, but it's convenient

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It weakens it a bit, but in my opinion it still has strength where it counts. If an attacker gets access to your password outside your password manager (man-in-the-middle, keylogger, phishing), then you’re still protected. Maybe it’s hubris in my own ability to keep my password manager safe, but I’ve never been worried about storing MFA in my password manager.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good, people are fucking stupid and if it effects others it's often better to choose the security for them!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yup. I'm actually a bit baffled by how much negativity/misinformation there's around 2FA even in a place like this, which should naturally have a more technically inclined userbase.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Well negativity is there because every app wants it.

I don't care if account x is compronised, as it has absolutly no value

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

I dislike MFA because it creates a risk of losing access to my account. I can back up my passwords; I can't back up a hardware device.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

2fa should be mandatory everywhere

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hard disagree. I do not want to have 2FA for every shittly little thing I do not care about.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

2FA is the biggest bane to my productivity in the last 15 years, no part of my work life should require me to pull out my magic distraction device.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Use a password manager that lets you autofill 2fa, like Bitwarden.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't like how a lot of things require their own custom app, especially when there's no automatic notification. I need to try and remember what the app is called, open it, navigate through, then approve it

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Get a hardware 2FA key instead of using your phone for TOTP

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

You can use KeePassXC to generate the TOTP codes on your PC. With the browser plugin, you can generate the code and fill the textbox with one click when the password database is unlocked.

Sites that don't use standard TOTP for 2FA are a pain in the ass though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Authy has a desktop app and syncing across devices

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