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Beehaw* defederated us? (sh.itjust.works)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I actually am a little curious what TheDude’s opinion is on open vs closed registration policy. If having a closed registration policy is all that is needed for beehaw to refederate then perhaps that is an option, otherwise let us just hope the necessary mod tools (or more than 4 beehaw mods) happen to allow for refederation. It’s a shame since I feel like this is a really important / formative time and I do not think larger instances defederating is productive.

But that’s just my uneducated 2 cents :p

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From a user perspective (who've been active on Masto for a while)

  • Closed registration because it's what the instance can handle : Fine and part of the fediverse.

  • Moderated registration : How do you define who can join ? It's fine and even intended to have small instances for the admin and their friends, but if you go bigger, how do you deal with a real newcomer, not someone who's been on slashdot/reddit/mastodon for decades and just have to send a couple of DM to get an invite ?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wonder if we'll get to something resembling the system used by private BitTorrent trackers. Invites and open registration periods where interviews or "proofs" of being a good internet user are required.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I do find it a bit odd that they didn't defederate from all open ones, if the problem is ban evasion then people can just change. I don't think their ban evasion preventative plan is going to work at all. Some of the "restricted" registrations are really just delayed and some are more gatekeepy so it's not really a solution for them

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

as someone who just joined, and is still trying to understand "federated" can someone give me an ELI5 rundown of what this means? I thought it didn't matter which instance you joined because they were all connected, does this mean that other instances can just... block an entire instance?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's essentially like email. If you have a gmail, you can communicate with anyone on any other email service. If gmail determines that spamsite.xyz, you won't send or recieve any emails from that domain. Same thing here. You're using lemmy.world. If lemmy.world defederates with my server sh.itjust.works, you won't see my messages. We will just never cross paths.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

hmm...that seems super counterintuitive to what I thought the fediverse was all about. That would be like Gmail just deciding all Yahoo emails are spam. doesn't this mean that Lemmy will just be a bunch of islands of content that will require users to have multiple accounts for each instance?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

just ban and block everyone until you're alone .

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Ok so which instance is not slow and still has access to most content?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Maybe making an account in a big instance is not that great of an idea after all. What benefit does it actually have?

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