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I just got permanently banned from a community for making a single harmless remark on a single post that was right there in the main feed. It's not a community I'm super active in so it's not like devastating, but it is annoying

If your precious little community is full of so many delicate sensitive people who can't even be reminded that another viewpoint even exists, then you should really protect them by defederating and having everyone join your private website

The mod has literally removed like 75% of the comments and banned everyone lol

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't have time to read every rule for every community that pops up when I'm in view all

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

They are echo bunkers. They only want comments and identity validating upvotes that whole throatedly support the orthodoxy of the echo bunker but they want to spread their extremist message by commenting on and brigading posts that they don't like in other communities to try to bully, shame, and harass others into adopting their extremist quasi-religion and join their echo bunker.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I love the Lemmy vegan community - they are the second greatest shitposters around (fuckcars have the edge due to their expert ragebaiting).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Nah. Perhaps the third.

The greatest shitposters are the people talking about AI and large language models.

inb4 "to criticise them or to embrace them?" - yes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I just got banned from that community and I've literally never posted in it. I've downvoted some posts, but they're all pretty antagonistic, so what else else am i gonna do when it shows up in my feed?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

so what else else am i gonna do when it shows up in my feed?

Block it?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I guess I could, but I don't feel the need to turn my feed into an echo chamber. I'm not going to go to the community to pick a fight, but I'm not going to hide from content I don't agree with. I'll just downvote it and move on. Besides, the OP is right; if the mods don't want their community to get downvoted, it's their responsibility to make their community private, not my responsibility to block their shitty content.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I actually really wish we could flag communities or posts as "excluded from the main feed."

There have been several posts I've made or that my bot has made (from community specific RSS feeds) that get down votes seemingly from people completely outside of the community.

For instance, I had a post about a heavy Standard Notes discount ... pretty relevant to Standard Notes users; down voted like crazy in the early days of lemmy.world.

Similarly, the other day Bungie made several post about Destiny around the same time. The bot faithfully posted all of them, but several got down voted, almost definitely because someone who didn't care about Destiny down voted the "spam" since several posts were about Destiny around the same time in the "main feed" (and they were probably sorting by "New").

My retort/unpopular opinion: There's no recommendation algorithm, if it's not a community you're subscribed to, and you don't care about it ... what the heck are you doing engaging with it? Move on to the next post or block the community.

Alternatively, we should be able to block interactions from people who haven't subscribed to the community without limiting federation or making it moderator only.

When you down vote a post of a community you're not a part of you're actively hurting its surfacing in the feeds of people in that community that use feed algorithms other than "New" or "Controversial".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

My retort/unpopular opinion: There’s no recommendation algorithm, if it’s not a community you’re subscribed to, and you don’t care about it … what the heck are you doing engaging with it? Move on to the next post or block the community.

Agreed

Alternatively, we should be able to block interactions from people who haven’t subscribed to the community without limiting federation or making it moderator only

At the moment, the only option is to ban them

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