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Hi all,

I'm building a media center PC and am looking for a tv-controller friendly UI for YouTube. My best case scenario is basically Smarttube as is available on Android TVs. It is a perfect app, but I believe it's not attainable on desktop.

I'm willing to use either Windows or Linux, and have a moderate level of competence in the latter.

I'd prefer that it function well with Kodi. Is the Kodi YouTube plugin any good? Another option I'd like to explore is Freetube or Invidious, but a surface level amount of research hasn't shown me any TV-like UIs.

Previously, I've used a spoofed user agent to trigger YouTube's native TV UI, but it's pretty shit and I'd prefer to not go there directly in any case.

Any insight is appreciated, even if it's a suggestion to post this to another community. Thanks in advance.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

Smarttube really does work well, if your good with messing around a bit I've spun up android vm's and the other android tools on Linux to watch smarttube with a bluetooth remote.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm running a RPI4 with LibreELEC + Kodi.

YouTube runs better than the official app, at least for my needs.

LibreELEC + Kodi works out of the box with the TV Remote. And you can use Kore (android app) to get a full keyboard.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Do you use a remote control or a wireless keyboard & mouse. I’m looking into this setup and am curious how others drive their home theater machine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I use the TV remote control for the basic stuff. If I need to type something longer or more options, than I switch to Kore (official Kodi remote by the same developers). You just need the phone to be in the same network.

Never felt the need to connect keyboard+mouse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I use a reversible remote keyboard combo which I find really really nice. I used to have some MX3, they can be had for 10$, sometimes even less, on Ali. It however feels rather dated..... But I recently got a G60s Pro and I'm loooooving it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Look into flirc. It’s a usb device that can read ir signals. It has a companion program that lets you map any button on the remote to any keyboard or mouse buttons. I use it to map my tv remotes u,d,l,r to the keyboards udlr buttons.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The best YouTube TV app for desktops is YouTube TV.

Look up PS4 Pro Leanback UserAgent and I recommend using that with Chrome because Firefox has a little bit of bugs. If you use it as a web app it works pretty well. The one caveat is you cannot exit out of it without enabling a developer flying in Chrome, without that flag you need to use alt + f4.

You want to use a web app or kiosk mode, specifically because resolution that you get in video is determined by the window size at startup, so if you have a 4K display, it needs to be full screen at start or else you will not get 4K video. Playback, you'll only get 1440p.

Otherwise, just full screen it, then refresh.

I personally have found that the kodi plugin is quite frankly not very good.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

What about freetube? Newer desktop update has giant smartphone-like buttons that are perfect for TV usage

For example, now the play button on my 27" is a circle with diameter 25 cm

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I'd prefer that it function well with Kodi. Is the Kodi YouTube plugin any good

I think you have your answer right there, why not try it out and see how you like it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

YT plugin for Kodi is quite decent. Have it daily in use, no issues so far.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I would really like to know as well. NewPipe is a pain to navigate on TV.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Since you said you use NewPipe on a TV, I assume it's some sort of Android TV? Why don't you just use SmartTube?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mostly because it's not available in F-Droid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Does F-Droid even have an Android TV client?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The regular F-Droid client works (but it's even harder to navigate than NewPipe). I should probably just try SmartTube, since it has auto-update capability anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I just adb installed the SmartTube APK from my laptop over the network

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

SmartTube self updates BTW. So once its loaded you dont need to do it again. Same with S0und for Twitch.