I don’t think it’ll happen. That’s why this will work, because the fediverse has controls for this. Say the folks over at another lemmy instance start hosting communities that are allowing hateful content, if you’re on lemmy.world you can count on the devs there to defederate that instance, and then it completely disappears from your view. It’s important to understand that you could still go directly over to the web portal for that instance and still see the content, but after they’ve been defederated, you’d have to a make an account on their server to interact with their content because all the reputable or safe instances will block them. So then it’s up to mods, like always. So if someone starts a community at lemmy.world then starts allowing hate speech in their community, I believe the devs at lemmy.world can simply nuke the whole community in one swipe, plus probably delete any accounts on lemmy.world that were engaging with the deleted community. I’m just learning so correct me if I’m wrong, but these sets of checks and balances seem to me to create an environment like a salty lake that will prevent certain things from growing, like the widespread douchebaggery that infested Reddit like a kudzu vine.
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The good news was that it depended on the subreddit. Lots of small subreddits didn't have this problem. However, there were a number of large subreddits that exists for exactly that reason.
I completely agree with you, I was there for 10 years. The place definitely became hateful, the users changed, the culture changed. The site just feels horrid now unless you're in some super niche sub.
There's always a few subs that get shoved un your face which are straight up the most racist shitholes ever. Lately, I got served a lot of /r/2westerneurope4u and it is absolutely disgusting literal /pol/tier
That's why I used third party apps and RES. When I left, I had filtered hundreds possibly thousands of subreddits
If you want to go way back, take a look at old BBSes or Usenet. The flame was commonly deployed. For many decades now people have used the internet to look at pictures of cats and also to talk trash or otherwise say horrible things. I don't think Reddit is different in any major way, except that on subs that were decently managed, many of the worst commenters were banned and the worst comments were often down voted into oblivion. It really did depend on the subreddit.
The fact that some people behave like assholes is not in itself anything indicative about a website working well or poorly. In real life some people behave like assholes some of the time too. Of course we have and should continue to take reasonable steps to deal with much of the badness, but we should never expect or aim for perfection on this front.
Well, a lot of folks enjoy subs like TIFU, AITA. I think those subs are just people in first world countries posting their first world problems out in the open or I believe most of the stuff there is totally fake LOL. It's hilarious both way.
I hope those outrage porn subs don't make their way here. If people want them it looks like Reddit will be open for a while longer. But I feel like it's too toxic to have on Lemmy.
The users of reddit in no way mirrored the real world. I consider myself an indepentant in real life, I vote based off of issues that are important to me, I get my news primarily from Reuters and the AP, but I found myself filtering out more and more subreddits as they became filled with hate.
Neutral sounding subreddits such as Politics and News became hate filled groups that attacked anyone right of the far left.
I've abstained from contributing to reddit for years due to this and hope Lemmy doesn't experience the same hate filled fall.
It is same thing on every social media platform. The reason why I deleted Facebook and Twitter because I was getting angry all the time.
Can confirm, I've grown to really hate redditors over the past 13 years.
Theres a lot of people here outraged, especially against capitalism for some reason
Seriously, thank you for this thread. I'm glad to hear it's not just me wondering this.
It's the day after the 4th of July in Seattle, so I thought see how many of my neighbors burned shit down by accident.
Instead I saw:
- A car driving around shooting fireworks at people.
- A young man getting stomp-mugged.
- A child in a spiderman costume getting absolutely humiliated and assaulted by his peers.
Realized I wasn't logged in and this was just first-page BS. FFS it's a total depression, rage, hate-machine.
It's the politicization of the online space. Chances are it will happen here, or, perhaps worse, lemmy.world will end up filter-bubbling and everyone on the other side of the spectrum will make their own space where we both give the finger to a blank wall and pretend we're brave.
But yes, it did get worse, because it became less about life and more about the appearance of life, much like most social media.
So many debate lords just looking to make arguments out of anything. They completely ignore what you say and read what they want to hear so they can argue against points they made up.