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[–] [email protected] 159 points 3 days ago (51 children)

How can we go back? We're already on the way back. It's called the Fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The fediverse is just a barnacle on the larger Internet at this point. It has to become more - we need to make our own web

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

We need a faster safer quantum proof forward secret timing attack proof version of tor

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I help pay for my instance to operate, and it's a cost I'm happy to help shoulder.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ehhhh, the OG internet connected better because all nodes were well connected. The Fediverse is a series of single servers that can't even sync all data across themselves. It's cute, but it's post-it notes on strings atm

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I wonder if there’s a more efficient way to have things sync in blocks or something. I honestly understand very little about server architecture, much less decentralized social network architecture. Maybe having a smaller number of “centralized” (community-run, redundant, independent) nodes distributing blocks of federated data to take load off the actual instance servers that would only need to upload bulk data to fewer places?

Maybe this isn’t very different from how it already operates. Fuck if I know.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Fediverse is as close as I've gotten to Internet the way it used to be, and I donate to the instances I use in order to keep it that way. I wish everyone would.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Someone showed me this and it's the closest I've seen to the way the internet used to be lol

Shows a different site every click

https://wiby.me/surprise/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Wiby is great. I think of it as more of a museum, an incomplete collection of antiques. The fediverse is thriving, it has a pulse.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

2 ways to go back:

  1. Corporations become less greedy.

  2. Consumers and businesses stop tolerating abuse and consider other options that will temporarily inconvenience them.

Neither one seems likely. If it were we simply wouldn't be here in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

A few of us still remembers option 3) Regulation And also 4) Properly working anti-trust laws.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It isn’t just corporations that have ruined everything, it’s spammers and scammers and cybercriminals too. Searching any topic these days is a crapshoot, with a high likelihood of falling into a spammer’s tarpit.

To me it feels like the internet is evolving into a virtual Dark Forest. We float around in these little bubbles of sanity, hiding amid a yawning expanse of seething chaos.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Libraries should evolve to play a larger role in the internet, theyve been trying to reinvent themselves and i think this best aligns with their spiritual purpose. Some ideas:

Caretakers of digital archives.

Caretakers of relevant open source projects.

Could I get a free domain with my library card?

Could I get free api access to mapping or other localized data?

Should libraries host local fediverse instances for civic users? (think police, firefighter alert, other community related feeds)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think clearnet is done for. Maybe something like i2p could be worth investing time into.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Creating a closed network on the Internet where any commercialization and domination are prohibited might help?

Something like Tor/freenet/I2P, but less shady (I know it’s not meant to be like this), open and accessible to anyone.

Edit: I remembered about gemini protocol, where you get

lightweight online space where documents are just documents, in the interests of every reader's privacy, attention and bandwidth

Perfect for the new better internet, huh?

For Android/iOS users, there’s a client called Lagrange on F-droid and Testflight

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Corporations and commercial interests taking over the internet is inevitable. the only free corners left are the darknets with tor/i2p. but because the normies can't bother use that isn't falshy and trendy, there might not be any other chance to replace this decrepit boring dystopia.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't really know. For text based discussion, I prefer something like Lemmy, also due to better moderation tools etc. It's a cool early thread-based discussion tool, but mostly outdated.

Unfortunately, there is absolutely zero other use for it, and nobody should ever bother, it's wasted time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

😁there are now binary files to be found there as well 😉

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

No, there is nothing, and any investigation by copyright holders wouldn't lead to anything. Trying to get anything out of usenet today is futile.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I totally agree. Corporate interests and rampant consumerism have ruined the majority of the internet.

Glad we still have refuges like lemmy though to take solace in. Proportionally we're a smaller part, but absolutely I'd say we're about the same or larger than in the 2000s.

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