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Let me preface by saying, I have my SUV all set up with a bed and a kitchen and all the amenities I need to camp out in the woods. I like it that way I'm enjoying myself I see no reason to change.

A couple of times I have mentioned that when seeing a doctor and the next thing I know, here comes the social worker with a stack of papers. I tell them that I'm doing fine. That I like how I'm living. I didn't ask for any unsolicited help. And they don't seem to listen at all. At some point they just leave me with a bunch of paperwork in a huff. I don't understand why they get so upset just because I don't want their help.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I'm gonna be honest with you, there's probably some red flags that your doctor saw that perhaps you're unaware of. You say living in your van is a choice; are you being honest with yourself about that? Are you actually taking care of your hygiene this way?

Because one red flag I'm seeing is a van-dweller making a doctor's appointment in the first place. Usually nomadic/hermitic people (as in, those who choose to live off the grid and aren't doing so as a matter of circumstance) generally don't go to the doctor, unless something is really wrong. So for you to show up in a doctor's office at all is already anomalous in the first place.

It shouldn't be understated just how important basic things like access to clean running water can be. And you're using the words "van" and "SUV", and not "RV" or "motorhome", which leads me to believe that you aren't taking care of some basic needs.

If you're truly taking care of yourself and being healthy, then more power to ya; I'm honestly a little jealous of those who can live that life. But if you're actually struggling, you should probably consider taking a look at the paperwork they gave you. Don't get pride get in the way of getting help.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As someone who has nearly lost everything to fire that was started by campers more than once there are externalities to your way of life that potentially harm others. I won’t accuse you directly because I don’t know you but the trend is there.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Or take their help on things not directly related to housing? A decent social worker can do so much for you that could be genuinely helpful.

I wish we treated unhoused with the same basic structure as hospice. Having a team with a social worker, Dr, nurse, and counseling for each person would go a long way to long term well-being even for people who choose to be unhoused.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

That sounds wonderful, I wish we could do that. Maybe someday.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Honest question:

How do you make money for things like food, automobile costs, and your connected device (assuming phone)? I’m not trying to make a broader point. I am genuinely curious.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

People who work in helping professions can sometimes have a lot of their identity and self worth tied up into it. A person who has not processed their emotions and baggage about their job/themselves/their place in the world/etc will unfortunately take that baggage out on clients. It is nonsense and I'm sorry you had to deal with it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Idk how it's relavant to them that you are basically a van dweller. As long as you are taking care of yourself (eating healthy, exercising, showing, and whatever else) then it doesn't matter.

Maybe if there was some treatment that required you to have access to facilities you need in a house but I can't think of anything. This is one of those times I would omit or just say you live in a house.

Just make sure you're stashing away some cash in an account so you can replace your ride or put a down payment on a house if you decide you do want something a little less mobile some day.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You aren't hurting anyone or doing anything wrong. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people with fashy instincts who freak out over anyone living an unconventional life. And capitalism frowns on anyone living freely and not paying rent, etc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

So true. If you're not following the life script people freak the fuck out. Want to live in a vehicle? Don't want kids? Don't want to be married? Into BDSM? Your political views land on both sides? People just don't know what to do with anyone that doesn't fit in a box.

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