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[–] [email protected] 576 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m glad to be totally off of Reddit now but I have to say, props to the mods doing this kind of stuff. It’s pretty hilarious

[–] [email protected] 201 points 1 year ago (10 children)

They're getting no end of grief from bad/paid actors though.

[–] [email protected] 191 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The amount of whinging and bootlicking from people taking Spez's side was insane before I left for good.

[–] [email protected] 156 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It doesn’t seem organic. Protest posts would get 95% upvotes, then suddenly 12 hours later get slammed with bootlickers and downvotes.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Reddit felt really astroturfed for years now. Start mentioning Neill Druckman in any capacity and your post immediately got flooded with copy paste hate centered on TLoU2. It seemed organic at the time, but when the TV series came out it was very sus, as if somebody had forgotten to turn off their bot army.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago

I've talked to a few that seemed organic, but those were basically people who wanted Reddit to get back to normal and not waste time on bullshit that didn't affect them personally.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wasn’t it proven that majority of the positive spez posts are from bots or chatgpt or something?

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

At least one post was defending reddit in r/programming has been shown to be chatGPT, that's for sure. If they have one bot, who's to say they don't have thousands?

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You just described Reddit in general

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (9 children)

No doubt, but they've really ramped up lately. It's like all the manchildren from t_D suddenly saw their chance to be assholes again without consequence.

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[–] [email protected] 308 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I honestly expected after the API changes rolled out that the backlash on Reddit would stop but I'm glad to see the shenanigans continue.

[–] [email protected] 126 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Same, as much as I hope lemmy succeeds, I simultaneously hope that the API changes get reversed. Good job to those fighting for this over there

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago

I am afraid the two might be mutually exclusive. Lemmy is like old Reddit and still on early adopters. We get more and more newcomers only because Reddit is going downhill.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I believe the failed Twitter-to-Mastodon exodus made spez and his yesmen cocky. I hope they underestimated how much more tech savvy the average redditor is - especially the nexus poster, who keep the community afloat.

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[–] [email protected] 212 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So long as it hurts Reddit, all the better.

This whole API issue is a lost cause, so the only thing that can be done now is to make Reddit lose big.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yep the fight for Reddit is lost. All we can do is make an example of them.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m really fuckin loving getting to watch this war being waged on Reddit from Lemmy. I was really worried that, on the first, all of the protests would peter and those of us pissed about it would be gone and things would just even out for the company. Love to see it still being fought, and more dirty than ever.

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[–] [email protected] 205 points 1 year ago (25 children)

I wish more of the larger subs were still protesting and didn't roll over so easily. But regardless the site has taken a massive hit to its reputation and one can only hope that recovery won't be possible moving forward and it screws them out of their chance to go public.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think most of the larger ones were forced to reopen by the admins

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Admin was kicking mods that didn't approve. Absolutely forced to reopen.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The article mentions r/pics, r/vids, and r/funny

These are large subs.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Don’t worry, doordash_drivers is now a recommended sub for everyone 💀

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[–] [email protected] 149 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm happy that they're keeping it up, but I've already moved on to the point that even if Reddit were to completely go back on the API change, I wouldn't come back. Personally I've already moved the goal post to where Steve Huffman needs to go before I'd consider ever going back. Reddit is dead for all I care.

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 1 year ago (26 children)

As much as I'd love to log into Reddit and see this go down, I'm happy just not using Reddit. How much longer do you think they'll hold out?

[–] [email protected] 116 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Do not underestimate average people's resilience to enshittification

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[–] [email protected] 133 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Okay, hear me out:

I get the argument that most of these protests are meaningless/if you REALLY want to change you're going to have to do this this this. whatever (I usually stop reading there). I understand, but I don't agree.

Sure, it's nice when a protest can actually enact real changes but lets face it; that's not common and sometimes not going to happen: fine. The decision to make a protest shouldn't be decided on the basis of 'can I win'; a much less restrictive--and very deeply fun--philosophy should be "is this worth taking time out of my day just to annoy/frustrate/irritate those who are doing this?' If yes (it should always be yes), "So lets find out how many ways me and anyone else I can recruit can make this happen'.

In other words: every time a subreddit finds a new and interesting and stupid and ridiculous and just weird way to be irritating and embarrassing af...I am living for this.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Very refreshing take on it. The cynicism about whether the protests were 'worth it' because we didn't see massive results felt like it missed all the fun of giving the greedy corporation the collective finger.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If the only reason you'll fight is because you think you can win, you're doing it for the wrong reasons. Win or lose or both or nothing at all, you do it because it's worth fighting for. Sometimes this ends with Brown v. Board of Education and Obergefell v. Hodges, but mostly, it won't, so if the best I can do right now is give some people a very, very bad day, well, I'm in: let's go.

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[–] [email protected] 124 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I love it. Especially that the mods of the default subs have the balls to do it

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago

turns out it's not a good idea to piss off the unpaid people put in charge of front page subreddits

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just went and looked at r/videos and I gotta admit that the text-only descriptions of videos and enforcing swearing in every post title is pretty funny.

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can’t wait for the Reddit IPO to fail

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fidelity has been dropping the valuation of its stake in reddit, and that's only as of May 31st. We don't know yet how the value will respond to all this drama, but I suspect it will go down more.

The IPO might not fail, but they probably won't get what they wanted out of it.

Unfortunately this probably means that the platform will sell to people who expect to get use out of it for direct public influence of some kind (marketing/politics).

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

No point in protesting, we already have a better alternative.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It's so weird to see all the people still fighting on Reddit when I've already moved on

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reddit is a lot less active now. Gotta love it

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (3 children)

People on Reddit keep saying things are mostly back to normal, while tiny subs are hitting the front page of /r/all on the regular with like 2k votes.

Also, I've noticed a pretty significant increase in overt racism. Or rather, significant decrease in moderation of it. I shouldn't be surprised but it keeps catching me off-guard.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I agree.

Also when we’re all being fucked over no one has a right to say how we (in general) should be protesting. People get to show their anger in whatever way they want. It’s like people asking for civility so they don’t have to deal with uncomfortable messages. Um fuck no. NSFW all the way if that’s what one decides.

Thanks for agitating

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago

The start of your comment reminded me of the exchange between Trevor Noah & Tomi Lauren where Trevor asks her, okay, so if this protest isn't good, and this kind isn't good, how should black people protest? How should they make their grievances known? And she just could not answer that question. Protests aren't comfortable--they're disruptive by nature. If protests don't challenge anything or make anyone uncomfortable, what are they even doing?

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

For for how much heavy handed their initial reaction was, I’m surprised that Reddit doesn’t take more aggressive actions. Spez has the loudest voice on highest pole, yet so far he only managed to anger everyone.

Fuck Spez.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago

Feels like reading the frontline news from far away. Keep fighting bastards, I don’t know what the end goal will lead too but i know it will be hands of us the victors.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Can’t wait for Reddit admins and Spez to realize they have failed.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

TLDR: Subreddits are protesting against Reddit's API changes, and r/pics, a subreddit with over 30 million members, has marked itself as NSFW (not safe for work). This means that advertisements can no longer be displayed alongside posts in the subreddit. The protest started in June when thousands of subreddits participated in a blackout to protest Reddit's plans to charge for API access. The changes have resulted in third-party apps like Apollo shutting down. As part of the protest, r/pics initially only allowed images of comedian John Oliver to be shared and later amended its rules to allow media featuring Oliver, including erotic fan fiction. The subreddit's moderators posted an "open letter" reminding the community not to swear, as marking the community as NSFW would deprive Reddit of advertising revenue. Reddit has reportedly removed mods for marking their communities NSFW as a protest. Despite this, r/pics was officially marked NSFW on Monday. Other subreddits, such as r/videos and r/funny, are also protesting in their own ways.

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