this post was submitted on 16 Oct 2024
144 points (98.6% liked)

Privacy

32159 readers
1471 users here now

A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.

Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.

Some Rules

Related communities

much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
top 17 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

looks like you, @Super_[email protected], are its developer.

can you make it available through fDroid too?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

After getting the crash issue resolved (it is now fixed), I tested this to see how it behaves by using PCAPdroid. I also attempted to decrypt the traffic, to see what it sends.

This is the traffic analysis:

Type Port IP version Size Status
DNS 53 IPv4 Random >120 B Closed (Good)
TLS 443 IPv6 120 B Unreachable
HTTPS 443 IPv4 Usually 2.4 KB Error (Did not trust my decryption certificate)

It sends to a random list of hosts, all of which are listed here:

https://4chan.org

https://www.reddit.com

https://www.yahoo.com

https://www.cnn.com

https://pornhub.com

https://www.ebay.com

https://wikipedia.org

https://youtube.com

https://github.com

https://medium.com

https://thepiratebay.org

After digging through the code, here is the file with a list of hosts. It also seems to randomly generate user agents, which is good.

The developer blocked me from opening issues on all of his projects.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

now that i see that list, the app became a lot less interesting :/

i used to use a firefox addOn that had the same function, but it created noise by "clicking" on random links starting from a user defined page

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I was about to make a pull request to expand the list to the top 109 websites, but the developer blocked me from all interactions because I "spammed too many issues" (I opened 5 and they were all legitimate). Buggy software gets multiple bug reports, what a surprise... The software (or at least the idea) has a lot of potential, but a lot of work and care needs to be put into it.

[–] filcuk 2 points 1 month ago

Only two of your five issues were bug reports, one of which was not really useful - various android makes have their own optimizations that can kill the app in the background, there's very little devs can do to stop this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Mullvad VPN has DAITA which does something similar but more legit

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Maybe you need 2FA on your GitHub account before you can do that. GitHub has made it a requirement for almost all the "dev" stuff.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Oooo interesting. Thanks for sharing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It immediately crashes for me.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

cool idea, unfortunately immediately crashes for me as well on Pixel 7, Android 15 beta

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

It looks like its a andriod port of noisy for linux. Noisy even have the same host list.

https://github.com/1tayH/noisy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Nice idea.

Does this run 24/7? How much traffic is generated so I don't use up all my mobile data?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

From the repo:

A random DNS and HTTPS internet traffic noise generator provides enhanced privacy and security by obfuscating users' online activities. It generates random, non-user-initiated queries to DNS servers and encrypted HTTPS connections, making it difficult for third parties such as ISPs, surveillance systems, or malicious actors to analyze and track actual browsing patterns. This added layer of traffic noise reduces the effectiveness of traffic analysis and profiling techniques, making it harder to identify specific behaviors, websites, or services accessed by the user.

Technically, even if your data is encrypted, the amount of data you send (and the time between packets) can be analyzed to at the very least figure out what website you're on, and who knows what else (i.e. Youtube's HTML, CSS, and JS files will be different than Facebook's, so the amount of data sent will be different, and you can train an AI to recognize these patterns). This app pretty much it protects you against packet analysis from your ISP or anyone else who could monitor your network. I guess this assumes that you're using a VPN or some sort of proxy since it's not very useful otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I wish I could use more than one DNS/VPN apps at the same time, NetGuard sounds awesome but some days I want to use personalDNSfier for the ads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Would be great to have a docker or Linux agent version.

I would also recommend using a DNS service focused for privacy like NextDNS, adguard DNS or ID something . It makes your request anonymous .