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[–] [email protected] 56 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Aside from the fact that they are listening to propaganda, it's also a matter of framing. They think of solar as green weenie shit, the ineffectual limp dick replacement for tried and true all American machine power.

It all starts sounding different when you frame it as a security issue. Large scale solar will keep working through almost anything, even if parts of it are damaged. Most other forms of power need constant maintenance and can suffer catastrophic failure that renders the whole thing inoperable and costing a fortune to replace.

More importantly, it adds flexibility since it can be rapidly deployed and remains effective at smaller scales. The military wants solar because the alternative is often a gas generator that needs fuel shipped in by truck, a common target for attack. If your house has a solar roof and battery backup, a blackout isn't going to effect you. Power can be out for weeks and you'll barely notice, while previously the only option was a gas generator that only powers a few circuits in your house and is inevitably going to run out of fuel.

The more widespread solar and battery gets, the more secure we are as a civilization against large scale catastrophes that disrupt the grid, whether that's war, sabotage or natural disasters.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Best way I've seen to explain solar power and EVs to a right winger is tell them I don't have to fill my car with expensive Saudi oil, I make good clean American electricity when the sun hits my roof and I use it to drive around. If oil was worthless because we have better forms of power, we could stop caring what some Arab princes think we should be paying to drive to work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 50 minutes ago

You can appeal to self-sustaing types or prepper logic as well. Way easier to make your own electricity then it is to extract and refine your own oil. EVs will remain operational much longer after societal collapse then gas powered vehicles will.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 hours ago

That's a great way of putting it.

We've had fewer power outages at our new offgrid house (0) than we had living anywhere else

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It'll be interesting when the pendulum swings towards EVs in america. Car companies will have to convince those coal and gas chuds to go back on all the rhetoric they've been fed in order to stay relevent in an evolving market.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Luckily these fucking morons have the memory of a goldfish.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

True, I'm excited to see the flavor next month.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I honestly think it's egotistical dipshits who can't admit to being wrong about "there's no such thing as climate change" they've been going on and on about, for decades.

Only now they really can't deny it, so it's this little nit-picking of everything that still lets them say "see, I'm still so smart about this stuff, and smart me thinks we still shouldn't do anything about climate change".

Gonna get us all killed.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

nit-picking of everything that still lets them say “see, I’m still so smart about this stuff"

Ah, the famous Jordan Peterson gambit:

  1. Present a problem in great detail.
  2. Explain how this problem is just how things must be, and obviously the only way forward is to roll over and maintain status quo.
  3. If anyone proposes a solution they're a silly liberal who doesn't understand the complexity of the problem.
[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago

Lol, that's bang on! Well done.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

Mfer do you think burnt coal or a coal powerplant can be recycled?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I feel like this is missing "Prime Farmland"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

We could be massively subsidizing corn instead of generating electricity

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

That is the #1 excuse right now

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

No cancer? What kind of right wing conspiracy doesn't make you gay, transgenders your kids or gives you cancer?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Well, something made me gay and trans >:3 wiggles queerly ^.^

And I did have cancer... 🤔 But all' that happened whilst with my fashy right-wing parents who tried to protect me from all forms of modern medicine and sense. Maybe it's the right whose ideas are crap and are ruining/killing America 💡

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

I hope you're better. I mean regarding the fashy parents and the cancer. The rest doesn't need any fixing 💕