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The new law permits pedestrians to cross a roadway at any point, including outside of a crosswalk. It also allows for crossing against traffic signals and specifically states that doing so is no longer a violation of the city’s administrative code. But the new law also warns that pedestrians crossing outside of a crosswalk do not have the right of way and that they should yield to other traffic that has the right of way.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

… it was illegal? No one has received a ticket for jaywalking in nyc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Adam Ruins Everything had an episode about jaywalking and how it became a crime.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago

No white people maybe.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago (3 children)

How does one "legalize" walking? Jaywalking is an absurd concept to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Step 2. bring cars to the market before proper regulations were a thing
Step 3. aggressively lobby and market that it's the walkers fault for getting driven over
Step 4. actually win over public opinion somehow

[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

There are plenty of places you're not allowed to walk for your own safety and the safety of others. It's not a crazy concept, although I do think that jaywalking should be legal

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

“Right to Travel” == right to walk on and across an interstate freeway where 5000 lb death missiles are hurtling past me at 90 mi/hr.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

Airports are so annoyingly difficult to walk around.

I prefer walking straight through, personally.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Step 1: be American

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"Jaywalking" being a crime is such a fundamentally brainrot thing

The law here in Brazil, not that anyone follows it, but it basically follows the logic of "the smaller you are, the more of a right of way you have". I.e. theoretically, a car should ALWAYS stop or slow itself to save a pedestrian or cyclist or even a motorcyclist

.... Again, not that anyone follows it, but it IS on the paper.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

That's the same logic in the US. Except everyone yields to animals, because you can't tell a horse or a mule not to trample that person who walks next to them

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

the term used here is "vulnerable". Vulnerability gives you priority

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

It would be nice if this was followed but the reality of the world is the opposite. It's right of weight, not right of way.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Good, especially since the law just targets POC.

If car traffic became 50% worse to make walking traffic 5% better, that's a win for humans in the city. It'll help convince more people to use non-car methods of transportation and that helps spark people to vote for and invest in more non-car infrastructure.

Ditching cars in populated cities isn't a magic law or anything, it's a slow incremental burn; legalizing pedestrians walking strictly helps that

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

Everything we do to make car travel worse (except for ambulances and disabled folks) is a win

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Ditching cars should be done everywhere (not just in populated cities).

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Agree, but it's certainly easier to do in NYC than rural places in the US, so I advocate for starting there

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 1 day ago (22 children)

Insane it was ever made illegal.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They were also fans of using it against left-wing protestors while ignoring the right doing it, particularly in the case of anti-genocide protests. I assume they will just find something new to pick people off in the crowd now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Is disturbing the peace still a thing for them?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Yes.

In England and Wales where I am based, there is a really useful website that has information on laws that police like to use for protests: https://greenandblackcross.org/guides/laws/. Its a bit of a shame that the National Lawyers Guild doesn't also provide public resources on laws for the US states that they operate in in a similar way.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

In 28 years living in New York, the vast majority of my crossing the street is done between the blocks. Some of them are very long.

And New Yorkers cross the street like we own it because we know that anyone who hits us is gonna get their ass sued off and have to pay out ridiculous amounts of money.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago

I support this law (fuck cars), but if you step into the street thinking an oncoming car won't destroy you like a pinata stuffed with ketchup packets, you have survived the luckiest lawsuit-free 28 years.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

this really threw me when I first visited new york. I come from a place where you don't dare try that because you WILL get hit and the driver will likely get no consequences. seeing new yorkers just walk out into traffic without even looking was such a mindfuck

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The cemetery is full of people who had the right of way.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

This is great. Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm okay with violence against people who think their convenience takes priority over the safety of others.

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