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Considering last night's results, I don't expect NATO to be credible 4 years from now (sh.itjust.works)

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago

I don't think NATO is in any danger. Trump has a very aggressive and bombastic style of negotiation. You saw this with NAFTA. Trump called it the worst agreement in the history of the world. But the USMCA is just NAFTA with a new acronym and now it's apparently the BEST trade agreement in the history if the world. Its the same with Trump and NATO. The Europeans are the worst freeloaders in the history of the universe...until they up their defense spending by half a percentage point to appease the Donald, and then NATO will be the best alliance ever. Typical bombastic bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Let’s just kick America out if need be.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Can NATO still mean something if the US leaves? I think so, but there is much soul searching to be done.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It isn't credible now. It likely won't exist at all in 4 years. Unless it cedes even more decision making authority to the US and becomes even more of a puppet.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The main point I was making is that Trump is almost certainly going to pull the US out of NATO altogether.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If not attempt to destroy it outright in an attempt to extort it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Only if he gets attention or money for doing so. Those are his two gods, and he serves no others.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well don’t forget Putin

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He serves Putin because Putin gives him attention and money. It's the same gods.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Putin also kinda obviously has some serious dirt on him

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

What dirt could he possibly have that the MAGA crowd gives two shits about?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Doesn't all authority already lie with the USA? If we're going to be real, I mean. I'm sure France thinks otherwise but let's be real: NATO was always the "Uncle Sam will protect Europe from Russia"-treaty.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

4 years? Try 6 months from now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

NATO hasn't been credible since they helped the US perpetrate a brutally violent colonialist pity party in Afghanistan.

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