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We all know the saying: scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds...

I expected to see a bunch of random strangers on social media complaining about the election and suddenly pretending to care about human dignity.

But it hurts to see family, friends, and trusted content creators going down pipelines not dissimilar to Red MAGA pipelines. For as much as they hate Trump supporters, liberals are becoming just like them.

There is one creator on TikTok named Seema R (@artlust) who I occasionally watched. I guess she has a career and education as an art museum curator. Occasionally she dips into political topics, and I never had any major issue with her thoughts on those.

I was going to share a specific video of hers from today, but it has been deleted in the past hour or two. She was practically foaming at the mouth about nonvoters, calling them anti-semites and mocking them for complaining about "gEnOcIdE" as if that is some childish complaint.

(Edit: Here's a video with a similar vibe as the deleted one: https://www.tiktok.com/@artlust/video/7435258288767290654)

The shock of this video gave me a huge sense of dread. I think the election of Trump finally set in, but more than that, I finally let go of some silly hope I had that Trump's re-election would wake up liberals and realize the commies were right. But from all appearances, the exact opposite is happening. Liberals are so fuckin mad about Trump that they're taking it out on the commies. It's going to be a nightmare for the next four years and I fear that America is far more defenseless to rabid fascism than I thought.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

But it's been fucking awesome to watch the libs cry so much, tho. Especially over in the politics subs on .world. lmao

[–] [email protected] 60 points 6 days ago (1 children)

theres not enough of us in existence to tear down and satisfy their bloodlust

i guess they'll just go after everyone left of neocons and fully disenfranchise like 90% of their party.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not left, not right, but a secret third thing

It's fascism

[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

"I made a new third thing."

"New third thing, or just more rightwing again?" disgost

"More rightwing again." sadness

[–] [email protected] 53 points 6 days ago (1 children)

americans for the most part do not take communism seriously as a potential ideology. however they're very willing to take fascism seriously. so if liberalism failed them, there was always going to be one way things could go.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Most Americans in my experience don’t know what either word means. If you use either one they just make up something seemingly on vibes.

It’s a little more interesting when you describe policy without using the words.

Describe something communists would do: “Ya that sounds good we should do that.” Call it communism: “That’s a bad idea.”

Describe something fascists would do: “That’s evil” Call it fascism: “Not everything is fascism.”

Some people even use the words interchangeably as if they mean the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

Most Americans think communism is when everybody earns exactly the same wage and everything belongs to the government.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 days ago (1 children)

all the liberal trans people i know are legit just nonstop freaking out its frankly very draining. a lot of these people are very well off so its very much a first-time situation

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago (1 children)

im not trying to shame your comment or anything but for me if you are trans and you are feeling a lot more anxiety right tbh its not unfounded and i truly hope it doesnt get as bad as it has the possibility to.... so what im saying is if your liberal well off trans friends are freaking out a little i do have a lot of sympathy for them

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

i have sympathy for them, but theyre ultimately afraid of certain meds being taken away and a lot of poor trans people are already doing DIY. basically it just means these well off trans people are gonna need to DIY like the poors already do. so all these well off people think its the end of the world, but it really isnt, they just dont know everyones been building independent structures without them. and frankly, they shouldve been helping us build independently from the get go, being reliant on the cissies is a mistake.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

true but i dont subscribe to the survivor bias political discourse

it sucking for others means we should working to lift up others, not being callous towards those who might lose things everyone should have basic access too. abandon this boomer mindset

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

? I'm helping them. Its not a boomer mindset, you're extrapolating

I'm just saying its a bit draining to deal with someone freaking out over an election when I know and regularly assist trans people living in ditches that have been failed by the ideologies these lib trans people espouse

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 days ago

the next 2 years will see a Cambrian Explosion of new species of liberal insanity, hold onto ur butt

[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 days ago

Don't worry too much. Liberals are incapable of remembering history. To maintain their ideology they have to shake their brains like an etch a sketch every week or two and start fresh

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 days ago

I think I'm personally responsible for pushing a few until they snapped.

jk I don't think they're snapping so much as going mask-off. And personally I think it is better that we have clear lines in the sand rather than be weakened by impostors overwhelming our ranks.

One type of Dem is now lost (and was never really reachable), but another type of Dem will want to break rank and flee to other organizations now that the masks all around them are slipping.

Or maybe not. We keep marching on either way.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I was one of the people who thought the bourgeois ruling class would not let Trump win because he’s a liability. But now it has finally dawned upon me what the liberal bourgeoisie is going for: Trump’s win will be a punishment for the voters who did not turn out for Harris/Democrats.

The ruling class wants to discipline those who think they can punish the Biden/Harris administration by abstaining. They want to punish the minorities who went for Trump after being told the inflation was just their imagination, those who stood up for the genocide in Gaza, and those who sat out of the election for the Democrats’ lackluster campaign.

This is why I fully believe that Trump’s foreign policy against Palestine is going to be even more vicious than Biden’s - the ruling class wants to spite the people who failed to show their support for Harris, and instead Trump’s presidency is simply a tool that will be used to crush the hope and instill the sense of fear and dread and guilt into every person who refused to support the Democrats. You don’t want to vote for us because of Gaza (or any other issue)? Here I’ll make sure that you remember this decision for the rest of your life.

Remember, the role of fascism is to defend liberal capitalism under crisis. Trump is playing that role. And if enough American voters who sat out of 2024 can be scared into voting the Democrats again in 2026 mid-terms and the 2028 presidential election, then the system is merely functioning as intended. A self-correcting maneuver through disciplining the voters, if you will.

With third party movement now officially dead, the question for the American left is: what is to be done from now on?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago

Grab some stakes and push them through the chest of every vampire in this godforsaken place.

Idk my only plan of action is adventure-time. If nothing else, I just want them to feel pain. They've been living in nothing but constant bliss and ecstasy their whole lives.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago

Since the election?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Liberals are so fuckin mad about Trump that they're taking it out on the commies

Are you new? Not joking or trying to be mean, but history shows very clearly that libs will become/side with fascists over us every time.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

Do I understand it intellectually, yes. I still held some hope. I also don’t like presuming that kind of rough deterministic forecast to things. Just because a situation kinda looks like 1918 Germany or something, doesn’t mean it will play out exactly the same way.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, isn't it weird that cloistered art people who by and large focus on aesthetic presentation with little regard or insight on how those aesthetics are or were produced en masse would indulge in anti-communism or, idk, anti the concept having a moral compass in the slightest.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I think she's more of an art historian, but that just makes it all the more devastating because she should know better

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

It's less about who they are, and more of the company they likely keep. Art historians are absolutely obsessed with aesthetic, though.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

If she knew better she'd probably not have such a career to begin with tbf

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago

It really is funny watching the internal conflict.

"Now i dont want to sound like Maga by saying this election was rigged despite zero evidence because thats whata maga would do and obviously im better and smarter than them.......but the alternative is admitting dems suck at politics so you know what fuck it they cheated and stole the election."

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago

Turns out catharsis isn't always healthy.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Okay so I found the video I originally wanted to share. She didn't delete it, she just blocked me after I left some helpful comments

https://www.tiktok.com/@artlust/video/7435666759027412254

Sorry, I am not familiar with computer monke-beepboop

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The helpful comments I left were something to the effect of:

  • I couldn't find a non-Israeli source for "90% of Jews voted for Kamala"
  • Even if that statistic is accurate, it is coming from exit polls, and does not necessarily reflect all Jewish Americans (in particular it excludes those who stayed home)
  • She claims that we should listen to the Jews who "actually do something" and show up and vote for the lesser evil, but she is inconsistent by ignoring the many Muslims who either voted third party or didn't vote at all — as a form of activism
[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"obey the jews" is a crazy political tagline

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Getting into weird anti-deutch territory

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

"Did something"

Uh no you lost the election. Voting for kamala turned out to be just as "performative" as the dems were blaming third party voters to be.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Yeah I unfortunately had to unfollow Seema R a little while ago. She was really scaring me in the weeks leading up to the election and it sounds like it has only gotten more toxic.