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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago

I mean, sure he was alive. But he wasn't physically there.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Is Middle-earth juxtaposed between Top-earth and Bottom-earth or Right-earth and Left-earth?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The serious answer is it's juxtaposed with East and West. West being the Undying Lands of Valinor, and East being the much less well-explored Land of the Sun.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

More Middle-earth. South is Harad, and north is Forodwaith. Both of which are regions of Middle-earth.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Inner earth and outer earth.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Beginning-earth and End-earth

Guess where we are

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I didn't understand this so I looked it up.

https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Maiar

Pretty cool.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

So there were five godlike beings sent to fight Sauron. Only one of them did his job.

I need to reword it.

You are the big cool powerful god. One of your servants, a minor much less powerful god does bad things to the world. So you send five your other servants just as powerful as the bad one to deal with him.

A lot of time passes. Three of those spend their time chilling. One joins the bad one. The last one turns out too weak. Who solves the problem? Four hobbits.

You really should reconsider your politics after that.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn’t much of the power of the Maiar in diplomacy and setting events in motion? Gandalf was as much of an interloper and manipulator as he was anything else, and his hiring Bilbo as a thief was the penultimate piece of his mission, as inadvertent as I’m not entirely sure it was. Right? No, really, I’m kinda asking, I don’t know for sure.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do we know that the Istari who go east were just chilling? I thought they were trying to rally men in the east to fight Sauron. They might even have fought some of his troops in the far off east during the Battle of the Black Gate? Or were those just fan theories and never actually confirmed?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's no exact details given for what the blue wizards (the two in the east) were up to. Tolkien only said they were sewing dissent against Sauron

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Wait till you learn about Melkor! He's a Vala, or one of the Valar, which is a higher order than the Maiar, and was basically super-Sauron from the before times

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And he was scared of Ungoliant, and we don't know what she is, besides nasty, and hungry, and shaped like a huge spider (well, spiders are shaped like her, probably).

(He also got his foot almost cut off by an elf in single combat and walked with a limp ever after — well, at least until he got his hands and feet cut off by the rest of the Valar, I suppose —, but elves were mighty back then.)

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