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[–] [email protected] 85 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

Well, not to defend the nazis or anything, but they did manage to make considerable amounts of damage and it took multiple great powers working together to beat them back.

[–] Honytawk 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, they were beaten by a group of different people who let anyone join.

Nazis were literally defeated by diversity and inclusivity.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That's how Fascists work though. They pick fights with bigger and bigger opponents -- because they're invulnerable, you see -- until they lose. Their economy was absolutely insane, and required flat out pillaging their neighbours. Eventually your neighbours are too big to pillage.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Isn't that not just an imperialistic trait, not necessarily a fascistic one? Franco's Spain didn't collapse, while it was still very much fascistic.

All the while, this trait is very much applicable to the Roman, Ottoman, Soviet or US empires.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 16 hours ago

Also, they successfully occupied most of the countries in western and central Europe. It's only when they tried to expand into Russia that the war started. If they didn't pick a fight with the russians, the Third Reich would have lasted much longer.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

I won’t say Finland or Thailand were great powers but Japan had a decent showing so it’s not like they were alone

Though it really only took USSR to beat Germany

[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The USSR was only in the fight thanks to lend lease and even Stalin admitted as much.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

I think a major part of getting "beat" is they fought the USSR in the east and simultaneously the USA and UK in the west. I mean the war against Stalin wasn't going super smoothy. But it went on since 1941 already. And it really went south for the nazis when the USA joined WW2.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago

They won many wars in a row without losing. Then they just overdid it a lil bit at the end and got bonked. They couldve had a huge empire if they just stopped a bit earlier.

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[–] [email protected] 125 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Same with the confederacy:

  • lasted just 4 years
  • lost a war against the USA

Yet their flags are waived around with pride 250+ years later. How perfectly normal

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, certain people can only feel superior to others to cover up for inferiority within themselves.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

wasn't even the last one standing on the losing side either. Japanese people are better than the master race?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

There's some Nazi "history" about how the Japanese were some long lost Aryan tribe. Being post-truth is flexible that way.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 19 hours ago

Well, how much hentai did the nazis produce? Smh

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Also did you know Hitler was a tweaker?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

U mean a druggy?

Everyone used to consume inorbitant amounts of hard drugs! Thats the charm of the time!

Or like are you to implying the narrative of nazi generals? That the war would have been won tups if Hitler didn’t meddle? ‘Cause thats also not true! The war rememtos are complete lies meant to convince nato to hire them as advisers, which they would have anyways. If things were to shit the fan with the ussr then they wanted the german militia…

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Won the war? Nah. Been much more of a pain in the ass for the allies to win? Probably

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

U don’t think that the US would have been willing to settle for peace if the germans literally won every single battlefield faster? They could have by giving [author of the book] all the resources and by giving none to the competing gens

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Alternatively, those generals saw how badly things were going by late 1943/early 1944 and would push for a negotiated surrender. While those generals definitely did put all the blame on Hitler in their post-war memoirs to cover their own failures, Hitler was certainly to blame for continuing to fight until the Reds were almost literally knocking on his bunker door.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Also very possible. At the end of the day it’s all speculation

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