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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Cool, so what brand is a good one to replace D-Link with?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Tplink is widely supported by openwrt

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I have a fourth generation I7 with 8gb of ram running pfsense. Its free and you can't beat it for baked in capabilities. I run pfblocker ng and snort to block ads maleware and useless(to me) telemety that my non linux machines send in regularly. Microsoft, Amazon and others. I also have wiregurad for vpn access to my home. You can also install the ntopng package and get really good realtime information on what is going on on your network. For years I used open wrt but the two don't really compare. If you had to compare, openwrt is like a geo metro and pfsense is like a sports car.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Mikrotik and Ubiquity

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

a new non dlink router. Since the should be named f-link for a number of reasons.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Okay so the 2015 EOL ones, yeah I can understand telling the customer to update their shit. They shouldn't have to support nearly 10 year out of date stuff.

May 2024 EOL ones? Bruh. C'mon now.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago

I would love to know when they stopped selling it compared to the EOL. EOL should be at least 5 years past the last time the models were shipped out, maybe more. So if May 2024 was EOL I sure hope they weren't selling them after 2018.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Hopefully there’s a mistake in the article.

  • It does claim they were both discontinued this year and reached end of support this year. If that’s true, that’s huge and there should be consequences in the market.
  • if the article is poorly written and the only concern is they already passed end of support so are no longer being supported , that seems like a tautology.
[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 days ago (6 children)

The DSR-150 is still being sold on Amazon under the D-Link store. Why the hell would you end of life something you still sell.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

Don't want to get lumbered with a bunch of old stock now, do you?

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Be nice if companies had to open source firmware they are going to EoL.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Be nice?

It must become.law. we want to lower e-waste? Yen if companies stop supporting their products, het must open source all of it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, be nice if the US didn't turn into a dictatorship in a few months. Don't see any company-unfriendly laws going in effect there any time soon. But perhaps in Europe there's still some chance of this happening.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not going to hold my breath that anything like this will happen in the current political climate, but yeah, that should be mandatory. Even ignoring the exploitive nature towards their customers, it creates a ton of unnecessary waste.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Exactly. As a consumer, when I buy a product, I'm not just buying the state of things at the time, I'm buying with an expectation of ongoing support. If they choose to not support it themselves, I should be able to support it myself.

In the old days, hardware came with schematics, so when the manufacturer warranty ended, customers could repair things themselves. That should extend to software as well, since software is just as much a part of the functioning of a device as capacitors and whatnot.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

there should be list of companies that should be avoided and why, its impossible to keep track of everything like this

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

An idea for an app I came up with for a class once was one that let you scan a barcode of a product in like Walmart and get what parent company owns it, like how Nestle doesn't like to put their name on companies they bought (or not in big text anyways).
So if you want to avoid Coca Cola you could scan it and see who it's owned by and if that company matches one of the ones you have blacklisted

Fun fact, 'peace tea' is owned by coca cola

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

There's an app called 'buycott' that does exactly that!

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Long ago, D-Link was good but then they sold the company. Just like Alienware, Farbreware, Oaklies, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 145 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

I mean, some of those EOLed nearly a decade ago.

You can argue over what a reasonable EOL is, but all hardware is going to EOL at some point, and at that point, it isn't going to keep getting updates.

Throw enough money at a vendor, and I'm sure that you can get extended support contracts that will keep it going for however long people are willing to keep chucking money at a vendor -- some businesses pay for support on truly ancient hardware -- but this is a consumer broadband router. It's unlikely to make a lot of sense to do so on this -- the hardware isn't worth much, nor is it going to be terribly expensive to replace, and especially if you're using the wireless functionality, you probably want support for newer WiFi standards anyway that updated hardware will bring.

I do think that there's maybe a good argument that EOLing hardware should be handled in a better way. Like, maybe hardware should ship with an EOL sticker, so that someone can glance at hardware and see if it's "expired". Or maybe network hardware should have some sort of way of reporting EOL in response to a network query, so that someone can audit a network for EOLed hardware.

But EOLing hardware is gonna happen.

[–] [email protected] 97 points 3 days ago (4 children)

all hardware is going to EOL at some point, and at that point, it isn't going to keep getting updates

EOLing hardware should be handled in a better way

Both of these are solved by one thing: open platforms. If I can flash OpenWRT on to an older router then it becomes useful again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If I can flash OpenWRT on to an older router then it becomes useful again.

well, only if it has more than 4 MB storage, 8 MB RAM. I'm practically swimming in older routers that can't even pass that requirement, and even today the cheaper, that is, more affordable options are still near that for some fucking reason.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Bingo.

Either support the device until the heat death of the universe, or provide consumers with the access to maintain it themselves.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (3 children)

But neither of those help corporations make them all the money. So we need regulation to force them to.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago (4 children)

This is the correct reaction to old home equipment.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

I can still use a 2003 AMD Opteron with the newest builds of Linux. It's an open standard. As long as the hardware still physically works. The only reason these pieces of hardware are EOL is because they chose to lock them down.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I agree. Buy a new router that isn't Dlink.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 days ago (4 children)

There right you and i should just buy a new one

Of a diffrent brand

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 days ago (14 children)

Welp never buying anything D-Link ever again

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Can highly recommend ASUS, most of their models can be flashed with custom firmware that is supported beyond EOL. And their EOL cycle is also pretty long.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Seconded. I didn't know the life cycle of a router but I replaced my asus router with another asus router recently. Not because it stopped working but because we have so many devices for our iot and I wanted some vlan. The old one is being repurposed at someone else's house

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago

Our shit sucks. Buy more lol

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