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This has come to mind because all the chatter about Meta federating.

I see a lot of people saying they'd love to have that type of content here when Meta federates, and that those will be the best instances because they will have the most content, but they will still be accessible without compromising their privacy.

I truly don't get this.

I'm not here for mass-produced content, if I wanted that, I'd be in other platforms. The beauty of these communities is they are not filled with posts that are all the same, algorithms and bots. It's just a community of real people having conversations.

If you want mass-produced trendy content, please, consume it elsewhere, and when you are inevitably fed up, then come here and enjoy the slow-paced, real community.

PD: I hope this doesn't come across as wall-keeping (or however it's said lol), It's my honest opinion.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't want a Meta account, but I want to communicate with the billions of people who do, including all of my family and friends.

But that is the power of the Fediverse. There is room for both small isolated instances as well as those that are part the larger "main" network, and everything in-between.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

This is just what happens when any social media platform gets bigger. It was inevitable.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm going to go against the grain here... I actually DO support Meta being federated. I know people are afraid that doing so will ruin the "secret club" vibe going on here, but that's the beauty of the Fediverse! Just join an instance that doesn't federate with Meta! Personally, there is some mass-appeal content that I like to consume, particularly relating to following certain public figures, and I'm looking forward to the convenience of being able to do so from within the Fediverse. But also, I'll keep a separate account on a non-Meta instance to keep participating in the secret club.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Personally, I am fresh enough to all this that I feel it's prudent to kind of sit back on the discussion, and am leaning toward the "defederate" option.

However - I deleted my Facebook years ago, and never had Instagram or Twitter. It would be nice to interact with my own family and friends who do most of their online presence in places like that. So I kinda get it. I'm not after the mass-produced content but it would be cool to hear from people I know again that I've lost touch with because I'm stubborn about FB.

Just spitballing - and please consider that I haven't been at Lemmy long enough to know if this is a terrible idea - but what about an instance that hasn't blocked Facebook and other big corpos, but doesn't raise their content by default? Like what if you have to actively connect with people on them? Seems like a decent middle ground, until Facebook decides to break it anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Be in an instance that doesn't do it.

Otherwise, if something is sufficiently excellent, it will attain escape velocity from its original platform, and get shared elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

... Some people just like letting the corporate algorithm sort content by controversies and rage baits. Maybe they will make their own instances focused only on that, but I hope that they will not be worth federating with. Eventually some of these will go back to corporate platform and whine on how "bad and bleak is the Fediverse". Good, keep whining and "advertising". We don't want people with that attitude here anyway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Whilst I completely agree that having deals with company such as facebook is not a good idea, currently we have a lack of content.

I fully understand you don't want content by bots and similar rubbish. I don't want that, too.

However, reddit was a good place for news and information. E.g. when I needed some tech support, probably someone on reddit already had a similar problem or I could ask and almost any relevant subreddit was spectated by some competent people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I joined “threads” and spent about 5 mins reading their garbage opinions before deleting it. I like it how they act as though it’s the “less toxic” twitter lol. Wait until the freshness wears off, then they revert back to their default toxic state. I give it a month.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

If meta federates we all gonna see their content it will fade away the rest of the instances,same like the lemmy world is the biggest instance in lemmy so if I sort by all ,all I see is the post from the lemmy world,so same thing will happen if meta federate, correct me If I am wrong

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It definitely feels like I have a voice in the spaces that I hang out here. The comments in reddit, insta, fb are so swollen that comments seemed pointless unless you comment on brand new posts. Maybe not everything needs to be here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will just say, that image of what the fediverse is (or ought to be), while not rare, is not shared by everyone.

If you actually want gatekeep only high effort posta you might want to go to Tildes.

I don't think gatekeeping is the answer, I mean I always wanted this platform yo grow horizontally unless there are many, many instances and a lot of people for variety. If you want to see only high effort content only join appropriate communities, it's as easy as that. To justify blthr block because it will taint the space is just a bad arguments in my eyes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

If you want to see only high effort content only join appropriate communities, it’s as easy as that. To justify blthr block because it will taint the space is just a bad arguments in my eyes.

couldn't agree more. there's certainly plenty of 'content' on the fediverse that i have absolutely zero interest in and would rather not see - but i can control that pretty easily even as a new user so I don't see the value in gatekeeping. maybe I dont care about linux but maybe both the linux user and I both like catswithjobs - that's the beauty of diversity, of finding common bonds amidst the differences and celebrating together.

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