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I got a lot of my headlines from reddit. Due to the impending death of my favorite app (Sync for Reddit) however, that's coming to an end.

I'm now realising my Reddit experience had deteriorated slowly, just doomscrolling the hours away wasn't healthy and I'm even kind of glad this is a good reason to end it. However, reddit has been really useful for news, especially the comments (taken with the right amount of skepticism) could be very informative.

I hope Lemmy builds something similar, but the defederation of beehaw's news has been a setback.

What would be a good alternative, going forward, for getting news and backgrounds from varied, trustworthy en unbiased sources?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe not directly an answer to your question but I don’t believe Reddit was a trustworthy and unbiased news source. Hell it wasn’t even that varied imo with news mainly being about what’s happening in the US with a focus on politics. Tbh I really don’t know what a good news source would be that thicks all your boxes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but the truth of the matter usually came out in the comments

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure I agree with that. The problem is that the comments also often include statements without sources, plain out wrong information, etc. Much of which can also be highly upvoted. So even with the context of the comments finding unbiased good news requires you to be very sceptic and isn’t always straightforward. Additionally each subreddit has its own target audience which will also inherently result in some bias in both the news that is posted as the comments on said news. But tbh a perfectly unbiased news source probably does not exist as we are all human.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right you gotta bring your bucket of salt for all them pinches, but it was often the case that if someone posted a bullshit answer there'd be a repudiation to it; if that one was bollocks? Someone else chimed in. Eventually you have enough to aggregate some semblance of the truth.

The pitfall is relying on votes to do the vetting for you, and reluctance to research under your own power in lieu of citations. Cumbersome work, but if you really want the real picture it's never 100% painless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I agree that there was generally a consensus in the comments, but that doesn't mean the consensus was correct. Often, different subreddits would come to different conclusions. I think there is a big risk of falling in to the "conformation bias" trap when relying on community consensus.

In not sure if there's a better way to determine the truth, though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Check out ground news. It is a news aggregator, but with a twist: it aggregates all articles on the same event from various sites so you can see how the event is portrayed by different sites.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

ground.news is great.

There's also allsides.com, which has a similar idea.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

no source is truly unbiased, but I am also curious about where to find news/worldnews - there's a few non-beehaw options but they're not updated that often.

for tech stuff I always default to arstech, cnet, and slashdot, but I honestly dont feel like navigating between all of the various disparate news websites on a daily basis - or even a weekly basis to be honest.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I honestly dont feel like navigating between all of the various disparate news websites on a daily basis - or even a weekly basis to be honest.

This is a perfect use case for a feed reader.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

any suggestions on a good feed reader?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like FeedMe (Android). Syncs to my Feedly account so I can also look at the web on my desktop

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

For years I've heard feed readers were better than reddit, I suppose now is the time to test!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@tallwookie @Trusting I quite like NetNewsWire with Inoreader as a sync backend

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I use an app called Artifact that aggregates news from many sources into a FYP and categories. There’s even comments for each article.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm going to try it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That looks pretty cool, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use feeder on android and have an RSS feed with news sources. You have to find them first and then see of they have and RSS feed.

Also you can make an RSS feed from mastodon if they toot their stories or use nitter to transform their twitter to a feed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have seen mentioned Feeder a lot as of lately, I have been using Feedly since all the Google RSS BS (heh, sounds familiar doesn't it?) And never looked for everything else (then came Reddit, then Lemmy lol) I never got rid of Feedly though, I tried othes like Flipboard but that one never catched my eye.

What would Feeder provide me that Feedly does not?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I use FeedMe and connect to Feedly. That way I can add unlimited categories, Feedly only allows 3 on the free plan. Works like a charm.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

RSS feeds from PBS and NPR

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

As someone that's never used RSS, how does it work?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Both of them have truly neutral coverage, as in they report based on fact and reality and don't limit what they write in order to maintain some false sense of neutrality. Many news sites nowadays play down objective fact in order to maintain "neutrality" between one side of the political spectrum that believes in evidence and statistical fact and one that expressly does not.

This of course means that they're seen as being "anti-Trump" or "anti-Republican" but in actuality it's reality itself that is anti-Trump and they just report reality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would caution against putting so much faith in them both so strongly. They both favor American establishment liberal politics, which is transparent to many due to the fact that a lot of Americans agree with those politics, and that they appear very reasonable in comparison to whatever tf Republicans are up to on a given day.

It's not a bad thing that they tend to have a very dry and straightforward tone, but all outlets are biased, and it's important to remain critical at all times if you want to have an accurate picture of a current event.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it's best to never read the news, you'll find about stuff that actually affects you naturally anyway.

Focus on communities for your hobbies and career instead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I very actively followed news and politics a couple of years ago, and had been doing that for a long time. One day I just got completely fed up, and stopped. And holy shit, I've been so much happier and harmonious since then. Strongly recommend, 5/7

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I like to keep up to date enough on the things my government chooses to do so that I can make an informed choice the next time I vote.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The context I got from reddit comment threads was invaluable. I hope to find something similar in the federated wilderness.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

for regular news article style news I use feedly and just have selected all the usual news organizations. for less formal "news" I was using reddit, but now I'm starting to use kbin I guess haha. I still use twitter as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I started using feedly, it's good! But then I realised I didn't actually want the news, I wanted people having conversations about the news haha

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I expect it'll take a while for kbin / the fediverse to acquire, and me to find, segments focused on some of the niche areas I had on that other site, but ehh. I knew there would be costs in leaving.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

yup. I used reddit a lot for more niche stuff, and so far kbin and the fediverse hasn't quite captured the same things just yet

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Just subscribe to RSS feeds from your new sites.

I use InnoReader, which I prefer to Feedly. Syncs Free plan allows you up to 150 feeds and shows ads (which you can easily get around).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I like brutalist.report.

It shows the headlines of many news sites in a clean way: just text links. It also has filters for tech, science, politics, etc.

Edit:typo

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

go to ground.news, they have news from both sides of the spectrum and label them as such and it's kind of like a reddit for news?? world news specifically tho

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've started using newsminimalist.com It's one of the most useful LLM based services I've seen. It's an aggregator that uses ChatGPT to identify the significance of stories and group the articles on different sites about that story together and then summarise them.

I don't want to spend hours every day reading news, but I do want to keep up to date with major events and it's been good for that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I just discovered https://newsnotfound.com/ and I quite like it! Well worth checking out. :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If you're willing to make a new account, I use lemmy.ml and so far I've been able to connect to every major instance including beehaw. Or you could make a separate beehaw account just for their content.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Google News app, Whirlpool forums and Facebook. Reddit until recently.

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