Murder is with the intention to kill. This would apply for using a car as a weapon as well and courts do go after these cases in practice, of sniping a target with a car.
But they are too lenient on deathly accidents with gross negligence.
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This would apply for using a car as a weapon as well and courts do go after these cases in practice, of sniping a target with a car.
Unless the driver admitted to wanting to kill someone on purpose with their car, the grey area between "I didn't see them" to "I don't know what happened." makes it so that drivers are often only given a citation for a traffic violation (i.e. not stopping at a stop sign), if the victim is lucky enough for that level of "justice".
It's very rare to see a driver be convicted of anything beyond vehicular manslaughter, including when you have a history of driving offences, and run off like a coward after running over a cyclist.
edit: grammar
With a random killing you might get indeed away, but murders are usually targeted. In case a deadly accident happens, and it can be proven the driver had a conflict with that person, it does turn the case around.
Plot twist, the person killed is a protester.
do that next year, and you'll get a medal and a cabinet post.
And if you setup a system were people die preventable, unnecessary deaths the cops will work for you.
So, luigi should have used a car instead?
Got it.
True for Germany, too. The killers sometimes even get to keep their drivers licenses.
... with judges explaining their non-judgements with some totally rediculous arguments like: he has already suffered the worst... having to live with the fact he klilled someone, so there's no reason for further punshment.
But there was a case where someone was convicted for murder because he was involved in an illegal car race and should have known better. Yes, illegal car races are a thing in Germany
Edit: This isn't the case I had in mind. I remember vague that the victim was an (elderly) man
Might be worth mentioning that "illegal car race" does not (necessarily) mean fast and the furious style street racing.
According to § 315d StGB (the German penal code), driving recklessly and violating traffic laws with the intention of reaching the highest speed does constitute an illegal race.
Works for the Walton family. You know, for those nights of heavy drinking, where you just wanna bounce some peasants off your grill.
But only if he's also a singer.