this post was submitted on 08 Jul 2023
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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Dude, this sucks. I signed up for a couple of instances, but that was my main one.

So if it’s gone and unable to come back are all those comments and posts we made there just gone?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The data for the communities is stored on that server, so yes, but only for the content that was actually posted there. Any posts you made from that account will continue to exist on outside communities.

Hopefully, it's just a temporary failure.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I just wish I could access my account settings, which look like they are stored on the server instead of the app I use. I had already blocked several hundred communities that I wasn’t interested in and I don’t look forward to re-blocking them again (ok, maybe I look forward to it just a little bit, I might have a problem)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If vlemmy comes back up you can use this tool I made to pull down a list of subscriptions, blocks, etc. and if you want, copy all those to a new account:

https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim

Obviously your comments, etc. are gone, but at least you can keep browsing uninterrupted from another instance.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Awesome. I will have to check that out and make backups if that server pops back up. Thanks.

I assume once all these apps get fully fleshed out functionality like this will be added and automated into client software to make it easier. Backing up/load bearing would probably be something that could be federated among instances of different servers too to prevent things like this from having much of an effect on users, no?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The devs have definitely said there will be an official way to backup your account and import into another at some point, but I don't think they've decided what exactly what would be like. Lots of possibilities with varying degrees of difficulty.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it’s all a bit janky right now, but that’s kinda part of the charm. I like watching things grow and evolve.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm in the same boat. I've set up shop at lemm.ee just in case but I still like VLemmy and hope that it comes back online.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is one of many reasons I tell people not to become overly attached to their Lemmy accounts. You don't know what or who's hosting your instance and it could just abruptly disappear overnight.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly this is part of the reason I’ve been thinking of spinning up my own instance. Literally just so I have control of the instance my account belongs to.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It will be good when there is an easy way to back up and restore your subs, your blocks and possibly even your comments. If you wish to change instances, it should be easy.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Just sign up on small instances to distribute the load they said... 🙃

I do hope they take back their domain name before someone parks it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Not even that small of an instance relatively speaking

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just run your own instance, I say.... that way it's your fault when you forget to renew the domain name instead of the poor soul running vlemmy.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The domain whois showed it was renewed for years. That's not the hard part about running an instance, not by a longshot.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this was rather a big instance no?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Indeed, I think number 15 if I remember correctly. I hope that it's ok, it's my home instance and is where I was posting the majority of my account content.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Same, I was helping set up a new community and we'd had some new people pop in and start commenting recently. This is a real bummer if its down for good.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What a weird way to go out, yesterday the owner was talking about how to proceed in the future and apologized for having to block an instance

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't wanna be that kinda person, but it's possible the owner had some visitation from the local authorities. It's not uncommon to use a server for multiple things, and I could imagine that there might have been some... not so cool things on there

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I read through that post last night. My guess is they got spooked about being potentially liable for anything cached that they may have federated with and just pulled the plug.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only reason I dont think that is the case is because the donation links are down. I still dont know what happened, I wish someone knew his mastodon or any other social media.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No? Wouldn't the donation links being down further add credence to this theory?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Porkbun LLC is a DNS registrar, so maybe somebody didn't pay their bill?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Well, not being owned by a profit-driven evil stab-us-in-the-back company going IPO has advantages and disadvantages :-(

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (12 children)

How odd. Could it be an account hack? Server malfunction?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Welp, that sucks, but on the bright side, you can always find a home in the vast fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I did, on feddit.nl, to be able to post this :)

Then I realized the feddit.nl domain was registered less than 2 months ago.

Luckily I don't care about upvote balance (if I did, I'd probably have stayed in reddit as a karma hostage), so I'll just keep hopping instances if they stope working.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn that was the first instance that I signed up for.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I signed up for it just a few days ago (reddit refugee), it was working until earlier today.

I've just signed up at feddit.nl now, to be able to post this.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't look good as the domain goes to a parked page.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It seems dynu.com is a dynamic dns service. Was vlemmy.net running from a variable IP (dhcp) address? Is that usual for lemmy instances?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

When I was still making personal websites ~10 years ago there were quite a few hobbyists who were providing free hosting on relatively big servers and I do remember they had dynamic IP addresses as they had the servers running in their homes and it was a bit painful to setup a domain name back then and you needed a dynamic DNS provider. So probably the fact that it's redirecting to a dynu.com page is a good sign.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes that confirms that it's hosted in his home, which means likely a dynamic IP address and explains why the domain name is pointing to dynu.com. I think the good news here is that he still has the domain name, it's just his server that is probably down.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I just checked DNS sales websites, vlemmy.net is still reserved apparently. The web page is still being served half-heartedly and if I let it load a long time the post feed still appears, so I think the server is experiencing some form of critical error.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Time to build a new account I guess

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is my main instance. Been solid for weeks since I signed up. I’m using my first from .one now. Not sure where to go for Q&A. Is there a Discord, Mastodon, Gangnam Style’s comment section on YouTube I can goto??

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can't find anything. Closest I found was a closed donation link. and this

Is it possible he's just understandably purging the filth from the server within his home?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Oh that’s from him?? Then yeah that’s what this seems like. But that’s exactly what I would do if illegal and risky shit ended up on my server. But I would post to another instance, Mastodon, or something to let users know what’s going on.

(feel bad I forgot his name and obviously can’t check now, he appears to be a great admin)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

New anxiety unlocked:

  1. Open Mastodon / Lemmy client
  2. Find it eternally spinning
  3. Slight panic

First time on Mastodon it turned out to be temporarily, new with vlemmy, I fear for the worst.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I was moderating my small community on vlemmy, and have posted several markdown-heavy things I would like to back up in case I were to move instances. Gladly, that was possible with lemmy.world cache (for everything but pics).

https://lemmy.world/u/(user)@vlemmy.net

https://lemmy.world/c/(community)@vlemmy.net

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Oops that's not good, I can't access it either

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Welp... That was where I created the main account I was using.

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