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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Warning: This is a rant.

I don't really know how to describe it but the content isn't quite where reddit had been for me. Also the comments are kind of weird at times, like they type of person here doesn't quite seem as 'normal' as what I'm used to from reddit.

There's a lot more open source and privacy focused people and conversations. A lot of people seem to hate on big tech and big companies in a sort of toxic-ish feeling way to me (not to say the other relationship isn't toxic.. just saying). Random conversations go into: "omg your privacy is lost cause you used a Google service." Then we have the 'if we don't defederate with Meta the world ends' conversations. I personally would like to see what Meta does in the fediverse.. maybe it will make it more normalized..idk. Then the: "if your app isn't open source its awful and terrible for the world" people.

Like that stuff is all fine, but it just isn't quite my cup of tea.

These things remind me of that one person in my comp sci classes in college who I just couldn't stand talking to. He would try to make you feel like an idiot by trying to sound all self righteous and smart. (Honestly he would fail and would generally look like a dingus).

The bulk of the content that gets comments seem to be mostly meme atm. At least on all (7/10 of the current top for me are memes). I like my memes, but would like some more breadth/depth.

Like I hope Lemmy continues to grow and hope it gets better, but it leaves me missing reddit at the moment.

In a perfect world I wish reddit corp wasn't such assholes and this whole thing didn't happen the way it did.

I'm completely skipping the UI and stuff not being as familiar and the various outages/bugs/etc since that's to be expected with something at this stage.

Please don't hate me :) Just sharing my unpopular opinion. Though I genuinely wonder if others feel the same way.

/Rant

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Completely agree. I really don't care about defederation stuff. If there was a big alternative to reddit with more content and users than here but was federated I would go there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There are a lot of niche communities that will stay on reddit for a long time.

But let's face it, the prolific posters on the big subs, the ones that generate lots of views and engagement and comments, are already leaving reddit. They were posting there because it was fun and easy. They weren't paid, except in laughs and comments. When reddit decided to sacrifice usability on the altar of revenue, they started to drive those people away. As reddit makes more changes to align to revenue generation, they'll drive the most prolific posters away, and eventually regular consumers of that content will quit coming.

Many will come to lemmy and kbin and Mastodon, in time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In fairness. i don’t consider myself tech adept, I don’t know how to run a server but I know the importance of privacy and open source. Maybe take it as a good thing that these are being openly talked about here, otherwise the mistakes of reddit will just be repeated. Supporting closed source is a ticking time bomb.

Companies can and will betray you in the name of profit.

On to privacy and security, they ARE important. You have no idea how many people lost money in their banks or have to deal with lengthy lawsuits and procedures just to get their life back after someone impersonated them by stealing their data or ID.

In our area, OTP scams are very rampant. And people constantly fall victim to random calls asking for OTP and other details ; then have their banks withdrawn huge amount of money precisely because the issue of security and privacy aren’t openly being talked about.

Please don’t take it as a negative, but a good thing that these types of things are being discussed.

As a popular quote (paraphrased) says “those who fail to learn the past is doomed to constantly repeat it.”

We don’t want another reddit or twitter.

People are still healing from reddit’s bad decisions. Let them mourn. Let them be angry, let them go through the stages of grief in their own pace.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Agree 1000%

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

For me it's outdoor communities and niche communities. Haven't quite left Reddit, but I'll be continuing to use my third party client with an injected API key

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well described. What subs were you subbed to on Reddit?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Quite a few. I miss my wrestling conversations. Hoping [email protected] takes off more.

Also I would generally scroll all and just continually find interesting things. Come back a few hours later to mostly new stuff.

Mildly interesting, infuriating, shower thoughts, tifu, videos, peopleofwalmart was funny once in a while, subwaycreatures, black/white people Twitter, tinder, so many fun subs.

A bunch of those exist here but need more time to take off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Issue for me is the frontpage/homepage whatever it is, it's organized in a boring way, a lot of suggestions on posts they'd think I'd like, a lot of personal finance subreddits.

Reddit is still there but the content I go there for is now presented in a way that's not suitable for me. Just naturally used it less.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree, the content is just not here at the moment and I want to back to Reddit. I'm holding strong for the moment but we'll see where it leads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I'm sorry, but what was even the point of this post? What have you accomplished by coming here and then complaining about the content here?

It seems like the root of the problem is that you're not really clear on why you're here in the first place. A lot of us are here because we're sick of corporate social media. For those of us that this applies to, we have seen what Reddit has done, we have seen what Meta has done, and we have decided we have had enough. Seems like you kinda just came here because of Reddit's API changes, and have not done any thinking about the broader trends this is indicative of with regards to the way tech companies operate and destroy friendly communities on the Internet like these. To me, they have shown that they see this group of users as a business opportunity and money they are missing out on, and they will do everything in their power to take advantage of it.

If you have so much faith in these companies that you are even ambivalent about them following you to the Fediverse, what are you doing here, in an environment that was created to escape them? You've literally heard from former artists whose dreams and livelihoods were destroyed by Meta changing its algorithms, and you want to see what Meta brings to the Fediverse? Can you not see why we, who moved here to escape Meta, Reddit, and tech companies, would be annoyed and frustrated by that? I see you apologizing for that user's loss, but are you really sorry if you're chill with bringing those things back into the one refuge we have left?

Please just figure your shit out. If you don't like memes, you can block meme communities. If it's too much, you can go back to Reddit or Meta. Lick their boots and pretend they have a motive of anything but profit, and will do anything but attempt to poach users from harmless, open source projects like these and destroy them. I don't care. But complaining about a platform to users on that platform accomplishes nothing. And for the love of Lemmy, don't be surprised that people are angry when you maintain the facade of keeping an open mind to something that has destroyed so much for so many. In my opinion, you may as well be a part of them, because the attitude of indifference you display toward these companies is what enables them to destroy good things for the rest of us.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Block whatever communities you deem to be noise, problems mostly solved.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit since 2010 has always had a hard time with people willing to actually go to alternatives. Just to have different owners/operators, the code was open source 6 years ago, but not enough users ever bothered to establish an "alternate reddit" with a significant user base. Even if it was only 10% of the main Reddit site, it would have been something. Voat was different software, Lemmy is different software, it was just odd that people were so loyal to such a centralized system. I remember when a lot of Reddit users came from Fark, Slashdot, Usenet, Digg - it wasn't out of loyalty to a single owner/operator.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Okay, this is a redditism that should be avoided.

A community that's opinion-based, yet people run into it just to rant. There is a difference between the two. We already have a venting community here on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can we burn this heretic already?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think and I'm really sorry to say you are confused, and have little clue of what you are talking about.
Your question should be: why are you here in the first place? not why you shouldn't. Trying to find reddit's good twin brother? Wrong place.

look this up: "ba miao zhu zhang"

And in italian we say: "la gatta frettolosa fece i figli ciechi" / the hasty cat makes blind kittens

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