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I asked if people chose iPhone for the blue bubbles elsewhere a couple days ago, and while there was some good discourse on that post, the blue bubbles definitely also came up as a reason.

In my experience, when people find out my texts are green, they oftentimes would rather switch to a different platform altogether like Instagram or just not text at all.

Is this actually a deal-breaker in friendships out there?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The heck are blue bubbles? Is this post about some fancy soap?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most of the people that I know who have Iphones do for family chat or teens and college age because everyone in their circle does.

But IPhone owners have no call to be looking down on android users.

Some of the greatest apps, PowerAmp and Photo Studio Pro do not have iPhone versions. Also IPhone runs behind Samsung in innovation. I mean IPhone finally added widgets but the functionality on IPhone pales in comparison to Android.

Also can't change defaults in IPhone for launcher, music, dialer, and pretty much everything except, browser, and email.

I could never own an IPhone because they think they know best for users. With Android I have autonomy over my device.

Some areas of this country do not get reliable cell signal that is where an FM tuner can still receive emergency alerts but no not IPhone because they disallow their customer base from having and essentially force their power users to utilize their cloud services because once again they fail to offer expandable storage as an option. Shaping their own market but it essentially is anti consumer.

Despite these things Apple is relatively successful with these business decisions (especially in the US) but Samsung Ultra has eclipsed the IPhone Pro with the 23 version and IOS is still playing catch up with Android.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Not to mention that any problems caused by green bubble lack of compatibility are Apple's fault, not Android's.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Wait..when people say the blue bubbles they're talking about text? I thought it was the live wallpaper!

Can apple people not change the color of their text chat bubbles? I changed mine so long ago I don't even know what the default is.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Signal is my preferred messenger right now since I convinced my contacts to move to it. Collects the least and it is private.

There is also Session which is a Signal fork that removes phone number linking.

Matrix for a privacy focused federated messaging system is another option.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Which country are we talking about?

I barely know people using iOS, much less being elitist about it.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

For stupid or vain people, maybe. And only in countries where people send SMS anyway.

I haven't used SMS actively ever, because as soon as smartphones got popular, everyone moved to Facebook, and then later I got my friends to move to Telegram if they wanted to keep talking to me.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is mainly an issue in countries that still use SMS as main IM platform.

In most countries (where mobile internet coverage is good) the main IM and VoIP platform is an app like WhatsApp and similars.

(The only thing I hate from WhatsApp is that is from Meta and as any Meta app it abuses background usage. I'd replace it with another app but all my friends, colleagues, even shops use it)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

In my country, nobody uses imessage, just whatsapp.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's a podcast I listen to where the LA comedians routinely use Android as a punchline, while clearly having very little understanding of it. They talk about android users as if they're this bizarre group of social outcasts and libertarians. Tech isn't the topic of the podcast, it's just something I notice any time Android comes up during improv or something. Like this is a well they routinely fall back on. And a lot of guests seem to think something similar.

So I believe there is a weird stigma, but it exists in certain areas more than others. LA is iPhone country, lot of people there see Android as some subpar aberration.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I find it easier to convince Apple users to use another app like Signal to group chat with Android users instead if they really don't want the green bubble.

Alternatively, you can get a secondary iPhone just to use iMessage, but carrying 2 phones does get annoying.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've had an iPhone for a long time and I've never got a person sending me a SMS. All I get are automatic messages about deliveries and stuff. I guess iMessage is more a thing in the USA?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Most of the world uses Android. The fetish for Apple is a pretty uniquely American thing.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I came in here expecting to explain why I'll never have an iPhone lol

I had forgotten about the stupid thing where teenagers care about the color of your text bubble

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Apparently for some people they see it as a gimped version of IOS somehow. If anything IOS from what I've used before is so much more locked down now than it used to be when I had a 3G. But yeah the stigma is there with some people, but it doesn't really matter at this point. If you want to side load apps, use android because you don't have to go out of your way to get dev permissions, hook it up to the PC to install, and constantly re-approve your side-loaded apps. Seriously that shit gets annoying real fast.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I think this is mostly an issue in the US. The rest of the world uses a variety of messaging apps instead of text messaging. Here in South Africa WhatsApp and Telegram are prevalent.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

It's a bummer that anyone is made feel this way about the phones they use. I've been an iOS user since my first smartphone and could not give less of a fuck if you are as well or if you use Android. Most of my friends are Android users and our message threads, video messaging, etc is all fine. I feel like I see this thread a lot on every platform and the comments section is just a place for people to vent about how much they hate the other operating system (and most of the time they have never even used the other lol).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Everyone I know uses WhatsApp, and they're not childish enough for carrying about green or blue bubbles. So weird.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My first reaction what like ”yes, of course!”. Then I realized you are talking about others people’s phone, not about choosing your phone :D

The only good reason I can see is privacy since SMS not encrypted. But those people most likely ask to switching to Insta, WhatsApp or other BS platform, so I doubt it’s about privacy. The only logical reasons left - they are addicted to those platforms / they value platform more than you / they just PoS

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't care what phone you have, but if you have an iPhone, I will assume you are an idiot by default until proven otherwise.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I don't care much about iMessage. All the people I know who are not an iPhone users use facebook messenger and cry about how bad quality sending pictures and videos are. But do nothing to change that. Thats the problem. I was going though hell to convince my girlfriend to use Signal to chat with me. Because she is an Android user. I hate FB, Insta, WhatsApp and all that stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Not for adults

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (8 children)

This is some sort of childish tech-classist B.S. Like you wouldn't talk to a friend because of the shoes they wore or the car they drove. Who cares about people like that?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It may sound weird, but your choice of phone does say something about you. I have to say I am dismayed when I see an iPhone in someone's hand. I may understand their reasons, but still. I can imagine it works the other way around too.

I mean, to take it to the extreme: I remember a Reddit debate about a married couple, where the husband was an open source, anti-corporate advocate, and the wife wanted to fill their house with Amazon Alexa speakers.

20 years ago, your choice of brand for TV or camera wouldn't matter much, but now it can indeed be a big deal.

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