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I can wear a dress to work and nobody criticizes me. I’d be really sad if I had to wear pants all the time, they’re just not as comfortable. Let’s normalize pretty dresses for dudes!

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I feel the opposite. I wouldn't wear a dress even if it was socially acceptable, they don't look comfy.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They look comfy as hell when it's hot out. I don't think I could swing wearing a dress in the office, but I bet they'd let me wear a kilt...

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Men, let me introduce you to sarongs. My cousin was roommates with a Ukrainian guy and after he tried wearing it he basically got converted. He bought a dozen to be brought back to Ukraine. With the conflict going on I hope he's safe now.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree. There should be a turn back to the robe-like garments that are used by everyone in certain cultures. It's comfy and it looks regal as fuck. And with the heat waves we've been getting we are gonna have to adapt to our environment where we can

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Getting my kilt ready as we speak…

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know if I would wear a dress, but I'm all for making skirts gender neutral.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Nobody's making me wear pants. I've worn garments similar to dresses and skirts and I'm not a fan at all.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Technology in pants has gotten so good that jeans which used to be uncomfortable have now gotten thin, stretchy, and soft while still looking the same

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I tried to use this argument with a boss during the summer, when she told me shorts weren't "professional"... She didn't bite when I pointed out the variety of "professional" female vs male attire, and that no summer male alternative to pants exists. I pointed out the skirt she was wearing during that scorching day as an example.

But I worked primarily in the field and none of my Clients nor their care facilities cared, so joke's on her and I wore what I wanted anyway. Dressed in pants on days I went into the office or brought Clients to one of my (former) organization's facilities.

But I am totally okay with this trade-off given that men's clothes actually have pockets! I'll sweat my balls off in exchange for functional pockets any day..

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reminder that guys can wear Kilts if they want to

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think skirts are gender for me personally (cis man), but if it wouldn't draw any extra attention to me, I'd consider trying them.

Maya Kern's skirts have pockets that can fit a Nintendo Switch in them. Consider the pocket possibilities if they made "men's skirts" (or just reasonable pockets for everyone). Imagine... Being able to adjust how you're sitting without your remote car keys setting off your car alarm.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

My grade school had a dress code, and one part of that dress code was that for the winter months, boys had to wear pants, not shorts. The girls could wear skirts on any day.

Well there was a heat wave and we asked multiple times to wear shorts and they told us no... so we collected as many skirts as we could and most of us came in athletic shorts with a skirt. Technically in dress code becaure girls were allowed shorts under their skirts. Rule was changed the next day.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No need for dresses. Just make baggy cargo pants (and cargo shorts fo those of us who , unlike me, like shorts) fashionable and business code compliant.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

skirts and tunics were good enough for ancients, sure, but they had no bikes or OSHA

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

All clothes should be accepted based on functionality and practicality regardless of gender.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Shorts are also comfy though.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just got talked to about wearing shorts by my manager. I told her I'd just wear a dress then. I haven't found one I like yet.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

As a man I appreciate your concerns. However, in my country the problem is much larger on the women's side as female professionals are struggling for their rights to wear trousers in professional settings. The recent progress? The lawyers just got allowed to wear pants instead of skirts only.

Why the fuck is this something that must be permitted in the first place? My rights to wear a kilt can wait until women can wear pants.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm a chemist, we're basically glued to our jeans regardless of gender. Yes, summer is hell for us.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Even shorts would be a great first step!

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Got it. Utilikilts for all!

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wear a kilt. It really is more comfortable than pants.

I actually remember seeing a blog post, too, showing a fashion line of skirts for men. Not for cross dressers either (but no judgement if that's you). It was marketed as a style that still made the men appear masculine. I forget the brand name, but I was intrigued.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

You had me at no pants.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It already exists and is called a sarong. That is a traditional Sri Lankan dress for males that slowly went away after western colonization. Bonus fun fact: Arthur C. Clarke used to rock this style.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

We know it by a different name, but it's still going strong in India.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I agree with your overall sentiment, but I'm good keeping my ugly knees and hairy legs covered.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Tbf, regarding dresses, skirts and other gowns: Your legs never get pinched, you can just fold your legs up under you when sitting down, as a guy you can just lift it up to pee and don't risk getting your member stuck in the zipper, as a girl, if you have the proper underwear, you don't need to take of your pants, many long skirts actually come with pockets or you can mod pocket slits into them and wear historical pockets under them, you can have them in any length, some pants lengths are silly, skirts allow more air ciruclation, just wear them made of the weather appropriate material...

But honestly, as a guy who grew up doing late High Medieval Living History (about the time of Friedrich II of the HRE), dresses are frigging lit. Just pull it over, secure with your belt and pouch, put on your shoes, if it's cold get your cape. DONE. Go out there and look like the Anti-Christ, King of Jerusalem and "principum mundi maximus"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Legit one of the nicest parts about WFH, I just wear loose basketball shorts. Feels so nice.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would never wear a dress. Pants are fine with me. I'd be perfectly content just wearing jeans and a t shirt for the rest of my life.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm a woman and I'm confused as to how you find dresses and skirts comfortable. They're a pain in the ass, uncomfortable, look terrible on most people i see in them and pants are way more comfy if you buy the right ones. And most offices are freezing cold year round anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love to wear dresses! Unfortunately the social stigma is still strong, even in progressive environments. I’d love to see a world where dressing is not a gendered matter.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm a guy and really like wearing long skirts. They're just so comfy for me and i can't wear them outside =(

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Sarongs are the answer. In warmer months I wear them often.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Agreed, 100%. I grew up in a hot area and worked in offices where long pants were the standard. I was always jealous that ladies could get all that ventilation and I was stuck with boiler pipes on my legs.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I quite like pants and am very uncomfortable in a dress, so I wouldn't want to give up pants for dresses.

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