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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

cars don't need to be driverless to be electric. i'm in favor of public transport but as long as we're in the long process of building it out it's still a lot better to have electric cars than gas guzzlers, with drivers still included.

there is a doctrine here where you fuck up a less optimal but easier solution just to force the world to adopt the better one but it's a shitty thing to do. public transport and electric vehicles aren't exclusive. in fact, for lower density stuff we will need buses and those should be electrified too.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

In cities, yeah. Outside cities, impossible

But I'd love to rent autonomous electric cars to move

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Been seeing a big push for trains in Florida and California lately, hopefully things with Amtrak go well and we see more lines implemented in the future

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We 100% need more trains. But in rural America, we need cars to do anything.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Because as the wiseman said, somebody just wants to sell more cars.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Because trains aren’t economically viable for the vast majority of the US, and where they are economically they are the topic of conversation.

As far as why the conversation would center around the US, that’s just the regular American-centric tilt english conversations generally lean towards. Most of Europe has their shit together in some topics like this (public transportation, for instance) and the US is a huge consumer of automobiles and no one if building mass transit between the middle of nowhere to the other middle of nowhere where we could ‘efficiently’ move individually insignificant numbers of people at a time.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Why is it that trains are always proposed as the alternative to cars? I, for one, really want PRT to succeed. It seems to be the best middle ground between efficiency and convinience.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

trains are the most efficient way of moving between cities.
want to move around the city itself? just hop into an underground train.
and for shorter distances (like grocery stores and stuff) you can usually just walk.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's a meme, not a comprehensive list of types of guided vehicles. No one is excluding them, nor should they.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Trains are electric. They use diesel generators to power the wheels.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some trains can be connected to the grid 24/7 through overhead wires and/or onboard reserve batteries. This grid could be powered by greener sources of energy.

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