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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (24 children)

I always have felt like blaming cars, of all things, misses the bigger picture. 1 crude oil shipping vessel produces more pollution than the entirety of cars in America will for a year. Cars are one of the things that actually empowers individuals to live their individualized lives. Hell, some people live in their cars/rv/campers and it allows people to escape the rigors of daily life.

I agree we should take aim at making them more environmentally friendly, and take a harder focus on replacing plastic components with metal and/or other recyclable alternatives. If we could sequester carbon into them somehow that would be even better; but things like carbon fiber require nasty epoxies that are difficult to break down again once they need to be recycled.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

The thing is that the 1 container ship transports a hell of lot more actual cargo from one place to the other than personal cars, which are mostly used for commuting lazy buttchecks back to where they came from in the morning.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I always have felt like blaming cars, of all things, misses the bigger picture.

On the contrary, doing anything other than blaming cars misses the bigger picture that car-dependent development is what drives, directly or indirectly, almost all the pollution except for industry and agriculture:

  1. The emissions of the cars themselves, of course.

  2. The emissions associated with producing all the extra concrete you need to build places to store the cars, as well as wider roads to fit all the traffic. (EDIT: and longer roads, for that matter, because inserting all the space for car storage forces your destinations to be further apart!)

  3. The emissions associated with restrictive low-density zoning codes forcing 90% of the population to live in single-family homes exposed to the environment on all six sides, instead of giving them the freedom to choose to live in denser housing where shared walls increase thermal efficiency.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They conveniently left off the 3 month oil changes, grease fittings, transmission fluid, gear oil, brake fluid, power steering fluid, etc. Cars have a lot of fluids and after market additives that people use to try and pass the inspection tests. Also the corruption where people pay off the inspectors to make sure the vehicle passes

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Classic fuck_cars - never change you guys.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Unless we're talking solar, wind or something else clean and renewable, EVs don't eliminate emissions, they just move them somewhere else.

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