some people still poop in holes in the ground.
this post was submitted on 19 Jun 2023
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Don’t underestimate how much resistance to change stops people from looking beyond the status quo. Moving away from Reddit is a clear example. I suspect a lot of lurkers from Reddit are actually from the category of Late Majority or Laggards
https://www.betterup.com/blog/resistance-to-change
https://www.liveabout.com/what-is-resistance-to-change-1918240
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I had hope until the infamous AMA posted by spez, and him doubling down on accusing people of blackmail. I've purged my account history immediately after that.
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I'm guessing, at least partially, sunk cost fallacy.
People like being comfortable, new places can be uncomfortable.
It's this simple. So just let them have their porn-filled garbage can of a place.
Reddit is now in the ilk of MySpace and facebook.. Corpo-wasteland devoid of anything but ad revenue and cheers from shareholders.
They can keep it.
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Honestly, it's a information goldmine. You'll get answers to most obscure questions and in detail. All others sources on the internet are either fluff or endorsements. It it also inconvenient to have to visit two websites that does same thing. So people don't want to abandon what they are habituated to.
I'm of the opinion that Reddit will become incrementally worse going forward, most users are not bothered right now because the whole API fiasco affects mods and not them, but as usual they miss the forest for the tree. The site will go for the users and creators next, but it won't be like this, it'll be one tiny annoying feature at a time to avoid mass abandonment. I'm already looking for alternatives, such as this one, in preparation, but most will put up with anything just to keep consuming the same old content.
There are more potentially interesting websites than I have time to spend. I'm taking the same attitude to Reddit that I take for StackOverflow and Wikipedia. I'll read their content, especially if it comes up in search, but I'm not wading through the cesspool to try and contribute anything.
I don't even think it needs to go for users and creators next; making moderation harder will have plenty of impact on its own. Many people seem to think mods randomly remove crap in some weird power trip. The reality is most are busy removing spam, abuse, shitposts, and the 5th submission of the same news link that's still on the front page. Once unpaid mods start leaving they'll have to implement automods that'll just suck as they always do. The quality of every sub is going to go to hell pretty quickly.
Because Reddit is familiar and people like to stick with what they're used to and comfortable with.
Because there is not yet a full alternative to reddit.
Because Reddit has been our online home for years. It's where our communities are, where are online friends are, it's become home. People have spent thousands of hours building communities there, as a labor of love.
Unfortunately I agree with you- the home is on fucking fire and unless a monsoon spontaneously erupts we should get the hell out before it burns to the ground.
Some people like my bf just browse for a little bit of their communities and don‘t care about anything else.
However, if we make this place interesting enough they will come naturally, those sorts of people are like moths who are attracted to interesting content.
I get a "sunk-cost fallacy" feel from it. Like Bill Hicks' bit went- This HAS to be real. Look at my furrows of worry- look at all this Karma. This has to be real!"
.. it's just a ride.
Because no matter how bad it gets, like all successful social platforms, it will stay successful. People will continue to use it no matter how much they complain or criticize it. I regularly complain about Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, etc. But I still use all of them. It doesn't matter how unsatisfied people are with how things are being handled, if most people still see a reason to use it, they will until it's gone.
Personally, I just feel bad for Apollo's creator and mods (the good ones) who spent so much time carefully taking care of a community they love, so in a sense I wish Reddit would come to their senses and axe that fucker CEO and revert to reasonable API changes. But it's mostly wishful thinking. Besides, now I would feel bad if Reddit managed to go back to being good because that would mean that this aswesome Lemmy thinghy would go back into the shadows, while it deserves so much attention imho.
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I get the reddit c suite just wants to go public and finally get their payout, which is understandable but if they're out then we're out too. There's better platforms now anyway that need a reason to be used and developed. They could have so easily handled this differently by just making the reddit app experience better than any third party apps today. But here we are and honestly I wouldn't bet my retirement that teenagers will still be posting to reddit in 40 years.
The only thing I can say is, I don’t.
The average redditor couldn't care less about what is going on.
I've being feeling that lately reddit had become full of repost bots and fake ads. Was there just because there was nowhere else to go
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Look at the twitter. Whatever they can do people stay there. Maybe the hardcore users or geeks will leave, but the crowd will stay.
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I also still have hope for Twitter (less tho). Both concepts are good, they're just run by fucking idiots making them unusable.
Twitter just needs a year or two to go back to the way it was. It was the way it was because it was the best way to attract investors and advertisers which it the only way it can make money. And by the way it was I mean it was a hell site then to but not openly racist.
Sunk cost fallacy is my assumption, but take that with a grain of salt. I'm one of those low tech savvy old farts people talk about. I left because making it harder for moderators to do their jobs means communities that I love will be less safe and welcoming. Maybe the rest have to experience that discomfort for themselves before they too are driven away. Or they think they can ride this out and continue as before when things settle down.
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The silver lining is that hopefully we can get a few people off Reddit and onto here and eventually grow these spaces. I do miss the thousands of upvotes and comments though, but that'll come in time