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President Joe Biden has chosen Adm. Lisa Franchetti to lead the Navy, an unprecedented choice that, if she is confirmed, will make her the first woman to be a Pentagon service chief and the first female member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I am amazed that we’ve never had a female on the joint chiefs of staff .

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a ton of baked in misogyny in the military.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Rapes? What rapes?

*quickly sweeps something under the rug*

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Colonel, you raped her? Congrats on your promotion to General.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's 2023 ffs. I too am amazed (and shocked, and appalled) that we've only just now gotten a woman on the joint chiefs of staff.

Sucks when I can't even be excited cuz I'm just so disappointed it took this long.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She's not there yet. We have to convince Coach to not throw a fit over it first.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Ugggggh I forgot about that. So, it's not happening then. Probably. Maybe next decade.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Well the military is about 99% men, and even less women sign up past the first 8 years. It makes unfortunate sense.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

this is an important step forward for the fight for equality in killing civilian children overseas and forcefully turning away asylum seekers

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More 👏 female 👏 war 👏 criminals

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"They'll be too emotional, what if they're unwilling to break international law or torture people to death!?!"

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

TBF I think having more diversity in military leadership especially could lead to diversity of thought and help improve the US military as a whole, including pushing them towards a less war crime heavy future. I understand your point - I don’t even disagree, really - but I think this is also a genuinely good and newsworthy thing.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is the system that creates this people, not what's in their pants, though. It's not like she's suddenly not going to be part of the military industrial complex cause she's got girl parts.

And even if that were true, one person being different isn't going to make that much of a difference.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the system that creates this people, not what's in their pants

True, but the system treats women pretty poorly, from what I’ve read and heard from a friend of mine who’s a woman in the military. Everyone’s different, but I hope that spending years in such a sexist system would inspire them to make change.

one person being different isn't going to make that much of a difference.

I don’t mean to imply they alone will turn the US military based or anything, but being on the joint chiefs and head of the Navy means they could do a significant amount of good.

Realistically I need to wait and see if she’ll actually be a net positive (assuming she actually gets the job) but I think it’s reasonable to see this as a good sign and approach it with cautious optimism - just as it’s reasonable to not care or roll your eyes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's less of an onus of "she will fix everything because she's a women" and more "a woman made it this far and thus things may change for the better". But the problem is, when such misogynist (or racist, or whatever other -ist you want to think of) system exists, people who are mistreated by that system often have to accept and often promote that kind of system just to get to a position of power.

It would definitely be nice if things changed for the better, but it's going to take a hell of a lot more than one person at the top to make that change. And, for all I know that change is already happening, and is part of why Admiral Franchetti has gotten to the place she has.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Very well put. I agree with all of this

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TBF I think having more diversity in military leadership especially could lead to diversity of thought

I love your optimism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I mean could ≠ will lol. I think it’s more likely to be a good thing than a bad thing, but it’s most likely to be nothing

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Despite it reading like she was always the obvious top pick you just know some people are going to turn around and say Biden's only doing it because of the historical significance of her being the first woman to hold the spot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Hey if she’s qualified have at it. I don’t know why people would make it an issue. People are weird.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Will this also be held up by Little Tommy Tuberville?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

When Life imitates Art.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

sky marshal We can Ill afford another klandathu

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