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Hi! I'm looking for a good cloud storage provider for my backups. I will encrypt them locally and rclone them, so integration is important. I've been looking through reddit, and every single provider has something behind their ears (closes accounts, scans files, sketchy, blah blah blah), so I'm having a bit of an analysis paralysis.

Free tier would be ideal. I don't need a lot of space, just a few GBs. Thanks :)

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Backblaze will only charge you for what you use. So 1TB is $6 per month, but 500GB is $3

[–] jaykay 4 points 11 months ago

Yep, I went with Backblaze and Mega as secondary.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Hetzner Storage Box and rsync.net are the best because can work like a normal storage, super simple. Hetzner is cheaper while rsync.net have better managment (no-javascript panel, normal 22 port, normal installation of ssh keys).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I've been using Hetzner with borg for a while now and it's been super solid, can't be beaten price wise either as far as I've looked

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Hetzner storage boxes look really compelling. Thanks for sharing!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Iam using it exactly like op eants. it works great and is cheap

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Same here! 10gb free is more than enough for the volumes I mount on my containers with config, etc

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

That's on my todo list. So far backing up several machines, including some from my family.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Backblaze b2 and rsync.net (which shouldn’t be a problem for rclone)

Neither is sketchy in the slightest and run solid services with many options.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Backblaze, very cheap if you rarely recover the data

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

If we're talking about Backblaze B2, downloads are free for 3x your average stored amount of data IIRC, so most recoveries would be free.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Oh, even like that, I didn't know

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Wow, makes B2 hard to beat

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I'm using backblaze. I use truenas. I encrypt before send. Not sure about a free tier but I think I'm using a couple terabytes

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think 10GB of storage is free and then 6$ for 1TB. There is also a cost if you want to download backup, but its free for 3x of the data stored. Amazing for backups

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Note- there is also a charge for calls per day.

https://www.backblaze.com/cloud-storage/transaction-pricing

I forget how truenas does it but I moved to restic which calculates changes locally then uploads the changed bits making it easily doable daily without extra charges.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah I saw that, but not sure how it works in detail tbh. Anyway, I had 10GB that increased to 200GB recently and it cost me 2$ since April this year. That was for storage and few downloads to test bckups. I trck the cost and so far Im happy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Backbone has an option where you can store the encryption key yourself if you don’t want others accessing your files. Of course, the usual caveats around being extra careful with that key apply.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

AWS S3 has a free tier that covers the first 5Gb. I recommend it because the AWS cli is excellent, and gives you lots of options for how to sync your data. The pricing is $0.023/GB/month after the free tier. It can be overwhelming to get into AWS but it is worth it to have access to the ultimate IT service swiss army knife.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wow, $24/TB? That's 4x the cost of Backblaze B2? (Am I doing that math right?)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

It's complicated. I gave the most expensive pricing, which is their fastest tier and includes stripping across three availability zones and guarantees 11 nines of data durability. Additionally, the easy integration with all other AWS services and the feature richness of S3 buckets makes it hard to do a fair apple to apple comparison unless you really have well defined needs. So I gave the highest price to keep it simple, and for someone who says they just have a few GB, any cost should be trivial.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Wasabi S3 is nice and cheap. ~~You'll only pay what you use, so probably just a few cents in your case.~~

Oops, nevermind:

If you store less than 1 TB of active storage in your account, you will still be charged for 1 TB of storage based on the pricing associated with the storage region you are using.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Tbf it's like 8 bucks a TB for anyone else reading this with 500 gigs or more

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

If you want something that works very well and is quite convenient, I can recommend the Scaleway S3 Glacier storage. If you only need a few GBs, it will only cost a couple of cents per month.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Check out storj. It is S3 compatible. If you upload from cli it encrypts localy and if you upload from web then it encrypts server side(you can still encrypt locally) data is stored in chunks so no one place has all you data. Old free tier was 50gb now its 25. You are paying for what you use. I use it at work for backing up time series database. I really like the ide and consept behind it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As I remember storj is decentralized, right?

What about cost, like for 500gb, 1tb?

Thank you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yes its decentralized. 4USD for TB /month and download 7USD/TB.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Now I can't choose When I started using b2 it was a really good option But now I'm reading and can't decide between storj and hetzner with their $4 for tb with free traffic

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I hope someone with exprience with hetzner can chime in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's about $2/TB cheaper than Backblaze B2. Nice.

Looks like they make it up on egress costs, which aren't even bad at all for my use-case (4TB total currently).

Thanks!

For those wondering, it's www.storj.io

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm very happy with Synology C2. They have special integrations for their NAS devices ofc, but they also offer general purpose backup storage.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Restic + rclone [1] is a good combination. Supports encryption, versioning, dedupe, snapshots etc. When I looked into offsite backups a couple years ago I was originally focused on the cost for storage but then realized data transfer costs can add up too.

After doing evals on S3, Wasabi, Backblaze and Hetzner with Restic I ended up going with Google Drive. Flat annual price and no data transfer fees. Since Restic does all encryption locally I'm not worried about what the Big G can see.

  1. https://restic.readthedocs.io/en/stable/030_preparing_a_new_repo.html#other-services
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Oh wow, brilliant. Gonna have to do some testing with restic. Looks like I could use it to roll my own Crashplan-to-friend that no longer exists

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Hetzner storage box

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

If you’re encrypting locally, a free Nextcloud provider would probably do the trick. Use one in Europe for better privacy rights.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Rclone works with mega (25gb free), storj (25gb free), google (15gb free).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Scaleway S3-compatible storage with Duplicati.

Edit: if it's text-files I'd just use plain S3 (since ease of orchestration with Terraform) but whatever you decide to go with. I see that you have selected BackBlaze B2 which is quite good

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Why rclone? S3 sync the files on a schedule, enable versioning for immutability and encrypt at the bucket level.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

i honestly am in love with cubbit.io

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

I'm always suspicious of a service that doesn't publish fees/costs up front.

Sure, they have a trial. But with no idea what the costs are like, I'm not wasting my time with testing or requesting a quote.

I despise these kinds of sales tactics.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I hate when no pricing is published.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't hate me because I'm using Google Cloud Platform buckets...

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

i've been trialing wasabi.com and switched to a paid plan recently, 1TB for $7 with no egress fees using daily restic snapshots btw

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