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I am sorry for posting about this, since it's a recurring issue, but I can't do anything else about it.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I noticed that I was logged out today, and I think it's because they installed a new release candidate (currently BE: 0.19.0-rc.13).

I just deleted my last comment which failed to federate, then re-commented, and it seems to work now. I confirmed on a few different instances that the comment is visible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It seems that didn't last very long.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Well crud. Still the same backend version, too.

Jerboa was just updated to support login on 0.19, but with the federation bug it's kind of a moot point. Guess I'd better move to another instance until this blows over.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Still broken. I posted this here and it doesn't show up here.

~~This is pathetic. Clearly this will never get fixed. @SDF: that's it. You lost me. Bye...~~ ... or not. For now... See below...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's not still, it's again. Seems like about 10 hours ago.

Checking the release notes: https://lemmy.ml/post/9347983
The outgoing federation got reworked. So it's probably not issue of SDF. It seems lemmy.ml might also be having some issues with this at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Oh interesting, 0.19 is finally released, and Lemmy.ml is on it. Probably better for SDF to upgrade now rather than stay on an old release candidate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Hmm okay. I must admit, it's the first time I hear about this problem happening to other instances. So maybe not a SDF problem after all...

Thanks for the heads-up!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

At this point I've made another account elsewhere.

But I wouldn't mind an SDF Lemmy for members but without federation that focused on SDF themes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

SDF's lemmy instance does not even sync lemmy user profile changes to their own mastodon instance (mastodon.sdf.org).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yep. I just posted this exact same question on [email protected] and Privacy [email protected] and they sure don't appear when visiting lemmy.ml or lemmy.one directly 🙁

You know what? I thought that was a glitch on SDF's Lemmy server. But it's never fixed. And the problem I have on SDF's Matrix server also is never fixed. And the problem I had on SDF's Peertube server took resetting my entire account to fix. And user support is basically permanently out to lunch at SDF.

I'm really starting to regret paying for my SDF account when apparently other free Fediverse services work much better. Like, really, REALLY regretting it now...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You are right with the issues you mention, but keep in mind that sdf is not a for-profit service and is therefore maintained as such. It is a huge operation keep afloat by a few people. I have had an account there for more than a decade and there are always issues with the different services, so if you want to follow a server that has nearly no downtime you will need to find some other place. Sorry about that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

It is huge operation keep afloat by a few people

Exactly what I regret paying for. Obviously they're in over their head.

I don't mind paying for a service. In fact, I believe in paying for what I use so much that it's the very reason I chose to open an account with SDF to take my first steps on the Fediverse rather than open free accounts on bigger servers. But I do have a problem when whatever I paid for chronically doesn't work properly. Had I been told SDF was understaffed and underfunded, I would have sought to pay for the same services from someone else - or even host my own instances.

I understand what you're saying, SDF's raison d'etre and philosophy totally resonates with my own set of values, and I sympathize with their staff. But the fact remains that I regularly spend 10 minutes posting something that disappears in the ether because some stupid bug no other (free) Lemmy instances seem to have doesn't get fixed on the one instance I really really want to support.

After like the 5th time, and with the other problems I have, it gets to be supremely frustrating.

It's not the money. If SDF asked me 10x the amount I paid, and do so yearly, I would still pay it for basic, fully functional services. It's the really nasty feeling of trying to do the right thing and getting less than everybody else for my goodwill.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

You're making it sound like you actually had to pay. It's like with other instances. You can donate, but you don't have to. Unfortunately, I am unable to do so due to them using PayPal without allowing guest payments from Slovakia, so I am here for free. I wish they used OpenCollective.

But let's snap back. Where exactly did you have to pay? I feel like you might have gotten scammed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

And even being understaffed and underfunded would at least be understandable, but some of these problems have been caused by the completely unnecessary upgrade of Lemmy to a non-stable branch.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

It's still broken. I just posted this and it's not showing up there.

Clearly, nobody gives a shit at SDF 🙁 I'm just about to jump ship at this point...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Let's start a thread keeping track (so we don't have to do as many test posts). Still out at 24 hours.

Or is there a better way?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

4 days, still seems to be down.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hey, it's back! At least for Beehaw.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

And it's back, hopefully for good this time, since there's been an actual upgrade with bug fix.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I attempted to get SDF's attention about the issues with this lemmy instance via Mastodon. tl/dr: I got a brief response suggesting I talk to my lemmy app's developers.

https://mastodon.sdf.org/@stgilbert/111496879992782914

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that’s not super helpful. I’m using the web client SDF serves, federation is still periodically broken.

@SDF, you either need to stick with the stable version, or this instance is going to be broken. I don't even know if this is going to reach you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

@SDF, just replying so you can see what's going on now that we're back online.