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Wanted to ask you about this article, how do you remember the early days of the internet (I was sadly too young at that time). Do you wish it back? And do you think it can ever be like that again? I would be very interested

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[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I miss text centric internet. I was interested in Linux from like age 12. But I only had one computer and was scared to install it. Well I got tricked on irc to fuck up my windows install. Left with some Linux install CDs and little other options, I went for it. My modem wasn't supported, but luckily I had a little bit of money stashed and went to office Depot to grab an external modem I knew worked.

And after struggling to get windows to work well on that old hand me down computer I was blown away. Especially when I found lynx. It opened webpages so fast. Got AIM working, got irc going, and had everything I needed. Started to learn more about the system and the internet was a wonderful place. Loads of information, but you had to seek out the things that interested you.

I made some really good friends that I would chat with for hours on end. Really helped me through an otherwise pretty not good childhood. Helped me learn a lot of stuff. And it wasn't ad filled, hyper tracking oriented, walled garden garbage.

Also, goatse.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I would adore having 1990's Internet back. It wasn't about media. It wasn't about ads. Wasn't about all sorts of flashy, colorful, mind-numbing drivel. It was just information, pure and simple. We still communicated. We still made friends around the world. But it was new, novel, and simpler. I remember when pop-up ads were invented and introduced. We thought that was bad. Little did we know what it would all turn into.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I miss there being lots of pages people would go to, lots or things and communities to explore. I understand there's probably more pages in total now, but I still feel like users mostly gravitate the same ones.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I certainly don't miss all the exploits, viruses, and general lack of security. Security and privacy online are very recent. Back in the day, everything was transmitted in plain text and browsers and extensions were full of holes that were easily exploited. Your computer could get a virus just by opening a webpage.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

no advertising, no annoying influencers, no extreme security, every kilobyte was precious + netscape logo

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

90s, slow (56kb/s) and expansive (4$/h) connection, PC was an instrument to do a single specific search at day without distractions. That's all. Game change was the subscription to monthly plans and speed up to 2mb/s.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It used to be much more decentralized, peaceful, not-for-profit. No systematic tracking (No GA.js). No affiliate/Google Ad infestation.

Individual users had their own small, cozy, hobby websites, not for monetizing - purely writing about whatever they were personally interested in, not trying to increase page views. A lot of good, pure, text-based websites, which perfectly worked without JavaScript nor cookies. Early webmasters were able to type clean HTML directly and fluently using a plain text editor, not depending on centralized platforms, so page load was super-fast, not bloated.

Individual users themselves owned the Internet, so to speak; were not owned by centralized platforms.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I miss msn messenger so much.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it used to be more difficult for a smooth brain to tell everyone their opinion.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I remember my Technology teacher in high school (1998-ish) showing me what websites I could go to for downloading full albums for free. He initially showed me a directory just filled with Pink Floyd tracks.

You can still find things in open directories, but it doesn't have that same feel of being wild woolly and free.

I miss early social media like LiveJournal weirdly. 1999-2005-ish was wild times.

I also remember hosting DJ Dangermouse's "Grey Album" which was a mix of The Beatles White Album with Jay-Z's Black Album on my website as protest. The album was released for free, no money was made from it, yet Dangermouse was sued and banned from distributing it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I had a whole list of Blogger sites with full albums, bootlegs and mixtapes in all genres. It was wild and fun.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Off the top of my head, I miss that games used to have LAN play built in, and you could use apps like Kali to play ipx games over the Internet with a built in community

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

@Provider Search. Can't find anything these days. I get so frustrated with the results being completely irrelevant and or obvious ads. I used to get 100 pages of results and have to narrow my search with operants like AND or "specific phrases". I used to feel like I had all this knowledge at my fingertips if I could just word it right. Much of it is still out there, I'll just never find it

This Tumblr post has some helpful links

https://www.tumblr.com/myalgias/721490730516922368/cea-tide-ladyshinga-im-sorry-friends-but

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Traversing web and ftp sites by simple, progressive, suffix removal from the address. Sometimes very interesting what showed up that way. Security was spotty, an afterthought often.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

@Provider Web rings, IRC, and forums. Actual personal home pages dedicated to niche interests.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

i think most of what i did was play freddi fish, pajama sam, and backyard baseball/football

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When you jumped on to chat (IRC) you didn't get pressured into upgrading to nitro (Discord).. IRC is still around but all the nice free networks have been decimated in acquisitions and other things.. there are still a lot of great Niche communities if you look hard however.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I miss flash games.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think what I miss is the novelty of the internet. The fact that it was fairly new was what made it exciting, whereas now the internet is old hat. That being said, a lot of the issues people complain about today's internet existed back then too. There were pop up ads that were annoying as hell, but fewer ad blockers. There was spyware and adware, which if you click the wrong thing would track your every move to add even more pop up ads. There was less security and awareness about that stuff back then, so it was easy to become a victim of spyware and adware. Hell, I remember when I first accessed the internet, it was through AOL, which was a major corporation back then with it's own browser and ecosystem that was designed to keep you on their webpages and seemed disinterested in letting you explore the web beyond that.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Early on, as a kid, AOL basically WAS the internet for me. Why would I ever need a browser? And when we first got non-AOL internet, it felt so barren--where do I go!? Where are my chat rooms and IM friends!?

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I miss Usenet.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

E-mail pen pals. I made friends from all over the world, it was a great way to get to know other people and their culture. Writing huge e-mails about where you're from and what life is like where you live. Because you usually only write one every couple of days, it was something to look forward to.
I guess social media kind of ruined that part, why write to someone when you can just post it for the whole world to see.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It was glorious. Websites made with a texteditor. Fansites for games and TV shows. Ever pic took a good while to load line after line (we mid-boobies now!). IRC chat and slapping fish around. Usenet for serious discussions and help. Picking up a girl on a X-Files messageboard. A while later my mind was blown away by MP3. You could do what?! Download music. A track for only 30 minutes?! Wtf! Oh yeah, and MP3 encoding was done on the command line without gui. The mid 90s internet was awesome.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The internet peaked with gopher, tbh. Mosaic was the beginning of the end.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

&TOTSE:

Q: What is TOTSE all about, anyway?

A: A lot of people have some weird idea that this web site is a Bad Place, a place for hackers, software pirates, and anarchists. The reason that they think this is that there are informational text files on here about hacking, piracy, and anarchy.
However, there are also text files on here that discuss politics; democratic, right wing, left wing, libertarian, communist, and everything in between, but this is not a political web site.
There are files on here that discuss Jesus Christ, Muhammed, Buddha, Crowley, John Smith, and "Bob", but this is not a religious web site.
There are files full of short stories, science fiction, humorous articles, and great works of literature, but this is not a literary web site.
There are files with information on rocketry, radio broadcasting, chemistry, electronics, genetics, and computers, but this is not a technical web site.
This web site is about INFORMATION. All sorts and all viewpoints. Some of the information you will agree with, some you will find shocking, and some you will probably disagree with violently. That is the whole point. In this society we go to schools where there is one right answer: The Teacher's. There is one acceptable version of events: The Television's. There is only one acceptable occupation: The pursuit of money. There is only one political choice to make: The Status Quo.
On this web site you are expected to make decisions all by yourself. You get to decide who and what to agree with, and why. You get to hear new viewpoints that you may have never heard before. On this web site people exist without age, without skin color, without gender, without clothes, without nationality, without any of the visual cues we usually use to discredit or ignore people who are unlike ourselves. All of these things are stripped away and the ideas themselves are laid bare.
You will change. You will transform. You will learn. You will disagree.
You will enjoy it.

It's a shame now the modern internet has switched from anonymity to identity politics, from freedom to cancel culture.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

@Provider
I miss Listerv culture. I grew up with mimeographed APA fanzines, and mailing lists were the most pure implementation of that kind of community on the Internet.

Seemed like any interest, no matter how obscure, had a welcoming Listerv community online. If you knew how to find it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I remember going over to my buddy's place. He had this hovercraft game and it was the most unplayable garbage ever, but it was fun because you were racing against other people on the internet. You were lagging so hard and getting maybe 10 or less frames. Garbage experience, but an experience nonetheless lol.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I didn't really "participate" in the internet in the early days, those being the early 2000s for me. Most of my memories from back then are of flash games and animations, had a lot of fun with those over the years.

Most of all I think I just miss the pre-gamergate internet on the whole. Obviously there have always been bigots and assholes on the internet, but now they've really staked their claim and driven their hooks in deep. It sucks to watch everything I enjoy become part of the culture war and the most vocal parts of virtually every fan base that I would otherwise be a part of turn into raging pieces of shit.

Though I suppose the internet already had enough evil in it to harass a bunch of actors from the Star Wars prequels to the brink of suicide well before gamergate, so maybe shit was just always bad.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I miss Netscape.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Did anyone else play digimon quest to save the net? That was one of the first online games I played on dial up.

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