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92% of Republicans, 78% of independents and 58% of Democrats believe crime is rising, as crime rates plummet (1ft.io)

submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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If people aren't panicked, they wouldn't elect panic-pandering politicians, so there must always be a panic — crime, drugs, commies, libruls, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

The police aren't reporting the rates of the crime they're committing and apparently wage theft is way up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

The system is working as intended.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Where?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The people who actually believe crime is rising clearly need to take the plastic bag off of their heads and remove themselves from the hole they've been living under for more than a century.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

It's unleaded gasoline, I think. They took the lead out of gasoline, and crime rates went way down in subsequent generations.

Also, just FYI cuz it's weird, yours is one of three comments from lemm.ee accounts that didn't reach me until today 1/1/24, six days after they'd been posted.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The claim that crime is down is based entirely on voluntarily statistical reports submitted to the FBI by police departments? Seems kinds of thin.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm curious, do you have any ideas about where else we could get crime statistics?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's not really my point, is it?

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Good to know the noticable increase of gunfire in Buckhead Atlanta is just my imagination.

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[+] [email protected] -6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I doubt the rate at which various crimes are reported is dropping enough to skew the data. How many reports are filed by businesses, for instance? There's little reason to expect businesses would change reporting policies just because individuals are feeling disillusionment.

The state of things is not good; that is no reason to dismiss a rare bit of positive news. At least, that's my take.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I think we can believe the number regarding violent crimes, especially murder, because those definitely get reported. I would think businesses also report larceny/retail theft because they have insurance implications as well. I agree that petty crimes against individuals is probably under reported. However, I would rely on the FBI data more than anything else because of length and trend of the data. Either people have continually decreased in reporting crimes since 1960s or crime has actually decreased since 1960s. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

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[+] [email protected] -13 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Well, I read.the article, then asked two relatives who are both cops.

Obviously their experience is localized, but the response I got from them that overall violent crimes are not down, they are in fact up. I won't go into any details but they both indicated things like house break-ins are down most likely due to work from home but murders, which I would consider violent crime are not trending down.

Take that for what it's worth.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I would agree that murder is a violent crime.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Not to be rude but that is worth little to nothing in the frame of this discussion. Crime will go up in some areas and down in others. FBI data compiles all of that data, including the precinct of your relatives. The data shows overall numbers are down.

Now if the discussion was about what areas have seen upticks and why, then you information would be slightly more relevant. Even then, we would still need to clarify whether your relatives gave you their statement based on a report provided by their precinct or based on their personal experience.

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