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Breakthrough: "Electronic soil" boosts crop growth by over 50%::This research introduces an innovative approach to soilless cultivation, or hydroponics, by integrating electronic soil, or eSoil.

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 11 months ago (5 children)

You know what our body uses as a natural battery sort of thing? Salts! You know what is loaded with salts/electrolytes? Gatoraid! The conclusion is clear

[–] [email protected] 96 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's got what plants crave

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Let's salt the earth!! Lol

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

It's full of electrolytes. Plants need electrolytes.

Amazing movie!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Waaaater sucks it really really sucks

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Gaaatoooraaaaaid!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Welcome to Costco, I love you

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Subscribe to your esoil account. Brought to you by Kroger, for the low introduction price of $39.99.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

*per acre per month

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Barley seedlings, traditionally not grown in hydroponic systems, exhibited a 50% increase in growth over 15 days when their roots were stimulated electrically using eSoil.

I didn't know barley is such a masochist plant. I wonder if it's just barley being weird, or if other plants also like being (lightly) electrocuted.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (3 children)

This is really only a useful technology for hydroponics, which is really only a useful technology in places that are short on arible land, but the realities of globalization means good luck beating the costs of importing from places that have more arible land than you.

Still neat, I would have liked to have seen an explanation for the change

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

Hydroponic/aeroponic is way more efficient than growing in dirt. You can stack it as high as you want and grow way more per acre. On top of that you have the reduced amount of fertilizer and water and the increase in growth rate.

There is a reason why the best weed is grown via hydroponic/aeroponic.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

It depends on what you mean by efficient. Cost efficiency wise, normal land farming beats out hydroponics by a mile. And really, cost efficiency is one of the top things to consider when it comes to farming on a massive scale.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

This is so false it's not even funny. Hydro is way more efficient and aero even more so.

With farming indoors you can control the day/night cycle which not only increases the growth rate it also let's you manipulate fruiting and flowering.

Hydro and aero use a fraction of the water dirt farming does. More water is being taken up by the plants and none of it is being lost to the environment. On top of that evaporation is controlled so less is lost that way.

As mentioned above the growth rate is increased not only by the light cycle but also by being able to more strictly control and fine tune the amount of fertilizer and you use way less of it. Just like the water, fertilizer isn't lost to the environment.

Seems like some of you need to learn more about this stuff. There is a growing number of vertical farms popping up all over the world. Hopefully one day soon we will be buying lettuce, carrots, etc that were grown if not in the same building but on the same block.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (12 children)

If that was the case, why isn't every industrial farm doing it?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

In part because traditional farms scale better than aeroponics or hydroponics. In part because farms don't pay for the environmental damage they cause. Because of these two points, there is little incentive to industrialize aeroponics or hydroponics.

What is true right now is that traditional farms use more water, fertilizer, and space, cause more environmental damage, but require less labor. And the labor problem can be mitigated with robotics, if we're willing to invest in that.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

fertilizer

Or you could save $62,000/year by letting the mycorrhizal fungi and bacteria do their job.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Only if you want to use incredible amounts of electricity and occupy a lot of building space. Ignoring those things it may be more efficient but not when you look at the whole picture.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It doesn't actually take that much juice these days. On top of being able to use solar and wind generated power we also have leds that barely use any electricity to run.

Aside from the initial investment for the setup, the ongoing energy and resources needed for hydro and aero are most definitely going to be less than dirt farming especially when you factor in being able to grow year round. And don't forget the reduced amount of fertilizer and water usage. The water isn't lost to the ground with only a small amount of it being used by the plants.

Basically this is like ev versus ice. When you don't factor in everything, one looks better than the other but with all things considered, ev is way better than ice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

being able to grow year round

You can grow year round with low-tunnels (conduit and greenhouse plastic).

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The best weed is grown in no-till soil, hence why living soil weed sells for more money.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Efficiency doesn't matter when we have huge amounts of low-cost arible soil. We don't need to make the most of every square meter when it's cheaper and easier to just put seeds in soil. This is the problem.

Hydroponics are cool technology that is in every way "better" but useless.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Hydroponics, when combined with indoor, vertical farming, is the reason that the Netherlands are one of Europe largest exporters of food. Even though they're one of the countries with the least amount of farmland.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

which is really only a useful technology in places that are short on arible landq

So, everywhere within the next 60 years?

:-(

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Also quite useful for places short on water, or daylight, or clement weather, or low-value ecosystems, or where transportation is unfeasible due to accessibility, environmental conditions, market access.

Also quite good to alleviate food deserts, securing strategic supply chains, and supporting urbanisation for greenification, food supply, lowering transport and food security (with growing food also having positive mental and psychosocial effects).

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People will do anything to avoid composting.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand why. It's a great way to get rid of your victims.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

You're always gonna have problems lifting a body in one piece. Apparently the best thing to do is cut up a corpse into six pieces and pile it all together. And when you got your six pieces, you gotta get rid of them, because it's no good leaving it in the deep freeze for your mum to discover, now is it? Then I hear the best thing to do is feed them to pigs. You got to starve the pigs for a few days, then the sight of a chopped-up body will look like curry to a pisshead. You gotta shave the heads of your victims, and pull the teeth out for the sake of the piggies' digestion. You could do this afterwards, of course, but you don't want to go sievin' through pig shit, now do you? They will go through bone like butter. You need at least sixteen pigs to finish the job in one sitting, so be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm. They will go through a body that weighs 200 pounds in about eight minutes. That means that a single pig can consume two pounds of uncooked flesh every minute. Hence the expression, "as greedy as a pig".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Robert Pickton, is that you?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I might try that next time.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

This reads like a news story at the beginning of a disaster movie.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I grow using a technique known as "notill" where you guessed it, I never till the soil. Or replace it. It's organic, I even have helper bugs and worms. Inside. It's awesome.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's really weird to me that you write just like Jesse talks on the No Till Growers youtube channel

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