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And cameras aren't allowed in federal trials. That's the real crime here.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"We’ll have fun on the stand with all of these people that say the Presidential Election wasn’t Rigged and Stollen [sic],” Trump posted, adding an all-caps claim it’ll be “THE TRIAL OF THE CENTURY!!!”

When we were told as youngsters that "any one of you could be the president of the United States!", I never imagined it could be interpreted as a warning rather than something meant to motivate young minds. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lmao “Stollen”. I think I’ve eaten some Stollen while in Germany.

Dude, how was this our guy for four years? How did he slip through two impeachments? He’s a walking conundrum, or I guess I spelled that wrong, too. He’s a walking covfefe

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Dude, how was this our guy for four years? How did he slip through two impeachments?

Lol how long do you have? The short, super-oversimplified answer is, the Orange One's ability to stay in office is the entire reason why Fox News was created; to spin/omit bad information so that their audience believes their politicians can do no wrong, and in effect, so that their preferred presidents could never be removed from office.

There's also the fact that a lot of stupid, hateful assholes put him in office literally so that folks like you and I would suffer.

Honestly, no matter how detailed I could get about how the Trump presidency happened, I too find myself asking "how the fuck did this all happen??", and I just don't fucking know, man. I don't fucking know.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Dont stain our Stollen with this dumbfuck

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

How did he slip through two impeachments

Mitch McConnell

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but we never told the kid that had Elmer's glue on his breath, meowed unironically, and would pull down his pants for attention. Now he's seeking a second term.

I guess conservatives are right, the "everyone gets a trophy" class produced some shit people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You'd better become president, or else...! *shakes fist menacingly*

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

By fun he means pleading the 5th to everything.

After all it was Trump who famously said that only criminals take the 5th.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Wait, it's all projection?"

"Always has been"

🌎👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It'll either be the 5th or his attempt at a hitler like speech from when he was on trial, it'll probly be awful but I bet it'll work

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You can't plead the 5th if you choose to testify at your own trial. Opting to testify means that you are waiving your right, which means that the prosecutor can compel you to answer any question relevant to the matter at hand. The prosecutor can not force a defendant to testify--which is why most don't--but once they choose to, they must answer.

Witnesses--people not already being prosecuted--can plead the 5th. That's why witnesses are often given immunity deals; immunity from prosecution means that they no longer have a 5A interest, and can be compelled to testify.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hey you took that quote out of context. The context was that he was not talking about himself, its diffe(R)ent.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Cameras not being allowed is actually really good in this case. Using a court hearing as a campaign event isn't how things should be done

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Using a court hearing as a campaign event isn't how things should be done

Beer Hall Putsch

The putsch brought Hitler to the attention of the German nation for the first time and generated front-page headlines in newspapers around the world. His arrest was followed by a 24-day trial, which was widely publicised and gave him a platform to express his nationalist sentiments to the nation. Hitler was found guilty of treason and sentenced to five years in Landsberg Prison,[note 2] where he dictated Mein Kampf to fellow prisoners Emil Maurice and Rudolf Hess. On 20 December 1924, having served only nine months, Hitler was released.[4][5]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like there should be a video recording of the proceedings, but that it should be sealed until after the verdict and sentencing.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You're not wrong but I wonder how it would play out. The judge is king in the courtroom and even a Trump appointee wouldn't let Trump steamroll them in their own kingdom. So either they'd boot him or Trump would have to stfu and behave after he spent all that time cracking on the court proceedings. Images of a castrated, silent Trump all over the news next to headlines of him saying how much 'fun' he was going to have would be interesting.

But I know none of Trumps remaining base are salvageable and Republicans would vote for him regardless so not like it would matter, it would just be interesting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t know…. I want to believe that you’re right, but I’ve been VERY wrong at how far people will go in giving him leeway on bullshit.

Like the insanity that EDUCATED PEOPLE will spout because of their inability to admit they were wrong about Trump….

Truly scary.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Can you imagine if a judge ordered a gag be placed on him to stop him from talking? Are they still allowed to do that? They used to be able to at one time.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He talks a big game when not under oath. If he ever gets under oath it's just a lot of boring ass 5th amendment and I don't recalls.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

He ain't gonna do it. This is just another in a long,long line of things Trump says he's going to do but won't.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like in every other case, he's all talk until it comes to the trial, then he will not take the stand or say a damn thing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh he’ll say something. He’ll say “I plead the fifth” if he even shows up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think his preferred answer in depositions is usually “I don’t recall.”

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This would be like one of the January 6th terrorist that was representing itself in a bench trial. Despite the judge and standby counsel repeatedly telling it to stop talking before more charges were brought, it kept going. After it was done, standing there convinced it had owned the judge, the judge advised it that three more felonies had been admitted to and was being recommended for further prosecution.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would say there’s a 99.9% chance that traitorous pathologically-lying coward won’t take the stand.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I say there is a 100% chance that he won't take the stand.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure he genuinely wants to speak his heart out, and that his lawyers are doing everything in their power to get him to shut up for once.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He's just saying that so when he eventually does not take the stand, he can proclaim to his followers that he wanted to but he's being prevented by the power that be.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Oh please, don't threaten me with a good time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Since I'm seeing people claiming that he'd plead 5A when questioned -

A defendant that chooses to testify in court has waived their 5A rights. A prosecutor can not compel a defendant to testify--that's where 5A comes in--but if a defendant chooses to testify, then they may not refuse to answer relevant questions. Answering questions untruthfully if you've chosen to testify is, by itself, a crime. If a defendant lies, which Trump is almost certain to do, then the prosecutor can call rebuttal witnesses to prove that the defendant was lying under oath.

Witnesses--people not on trial--can plead 5A and refuse to answer questions. Prosecutors will sometimes give witnesses immunity from prosecution for truthful testimony; that negates the 5A interest.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

stollen

insufferable idiocy

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

He wont, he never does, big coward sticking out his chest

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Surely nothing can go wrong if he does that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

let's do it. making a mockery of the justicd system in front of a judge should go well for him.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Keep him out of the media. No cameras! No free air time! Let him rot in prison, no fanfare, no attention, just solitude. I don’t wanna see his face-anus spewing anymore lies. No cameras in the courthouse! Just show me his perp walk to prison. That’s all I need.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ohpleaseohpleaseohplease. Do it!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Lordy, I hope there's tapes!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, let's see how many contempt of court charges he can rack up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No doubt. And in the same breath, incriminate himself.

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