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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This all seems very reasonable, it seems like the plasma team made the right decision to remove semi-broken / obsolete parts, but Unsplash removal because of AI scraping is a bit disappointing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

There is a wallpaper plugin that grabs pictures from subreddits of your choice, or probably was if they used Reddit's API. Maybe one could port this to Lemmy or other services.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plasma is amazing. It has been my DE of choice for years now. So happy I'm donating to the project.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

May you sleep well tonight and have a wonderful poop in the morning.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

At first I wanted to "complain" about the removal of the thumbnails task switcher, because I prefer that one. But then I noticed that the thumbnail grid is the same and better! So if you were using what I, maybe the grid version is what you actually want.

Also, I love the concept that you can put back things that were removed from Plasma without building it all yourself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks, I had no idea the "thumbnail grid" existed. I usually hate changing things I use all the time but this one is most definitely an improvement.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shame about khotkeys, but I get it.

Thank you for the reasonable communication, it helps.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's being replaced by another tec that does use Wayland. All functionalities will still be there

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm skeptical that ALL the functionality will be recreated. We'll see.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Can't say that I've really used any of the features mentioned in this list, so doesn't really affect my experience negatively. Also, updating some icon sets to fit with the overall theme would provide a more unified experience. So two thumbs-up from me for removing code that, by & large, wasn't getting used, should help maintaining it in the long run.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I miss:

  • old amarok
  • actively developed oxygen qt style
  • wallpaper per virtual desktop
  • window tabs
  • latte dock
  • parachute

I will also miss:

  • khotkeys
  • plasma theme icons
  • windowed widgets
  • icon size settings
  • some task switchers, I think
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Amarok and Oxygen. Yes. 😔

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I miss latte dock too, I wish someone would fork it and get it going again. I would do it myself but I'm too lazy and stupid, I just want to use it for free.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For Amarok, have you tried Strawberry? It's based on Amarok and looks pretty similar but it's actually maintained.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I have used Clementine and Strawberry, great projects, but unfortunately I no longer have my old music collection, and rely on streaming services these days.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can anyone explain Windowed Widgets to me? I don't know if I used it or not.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Basically, you can open some widgets inside a standalone window instead of attaching them to a bar/desktop, making them act like some kind of standalone application instead - including losing all their state as soon as their window is closed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually very cool! Unfortunate that some people used them wrongly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The only widget I've found in any way useful as a detached window like that has been the sticky note, and even there the usability is limited compared to just opening kwrite - or any other simple text editor.

It's definitely an interesting - if quite useless and potentially confusing - feature, but it makes complete sense to drop it from core and instead let it live as an extension instead, since it's quite literally just a krunner runner anyway.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Icons in Plasma Styles

In Plasma 5, the icons shown in various parts of Plasma widgets (but not apps) can come from one of two places: the active icon theme, or the active Plasma style. How do you the user know which icons come from which place? You can’t, not easily. What can you do if you apply a Plasma style and it includes weird icons that make your Plasma widgets look visually inconsistent with the rest of your system–but only partially? Nothing!

[...]

For Plasma 6, we’re removing this questionable feature, and icons in Plasma widgets will always come from the systemwide icon theme. Much simpler, much more user-comprehensible, much better visual results 99% of the time.

I've tried to give Plasma a fair shot a few times, but, among other issues, I'm not a fan of Breeze and I found the theming functionality overwhelming and difficult to navigate. Mainly I could never figure out which themes certain elements were attached to. This is a big example and I'm glad to see them changing it.